Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 50643 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2005 10:25:04 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 4 Mar 2005 10:25:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16049 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2005 10:25:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 16003 invoked by uid 500); 4 Mar 2005 10:25:02 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: List-Post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 15990 invoked by uid 99); 4 Mar 2005 10:25:01 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=10.0 tests=FORGED_RCVD_HELO X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from natnoddy.rzone.de (HELO natnoddy.rzone.de) (81.169.145.166) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Fri, 04 Mar 2005 02:25:01 -0800 Received: from 192.168.0.107 (75.red-213-227-46.user.auna.net [213.227.46.75]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j24AOptC014102 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 11:24:57 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: [RT] Per document skinconf (was Re: coloring table cells [from the user list]) From: Thorsten Scherler To: dev@forrest.apache.org In-Reply-To: <42278371.7030500@apache.org> References: <421C4D94.6070905@uidesign.de> <421C7040.3090901@apache.org> <1109197348.5141.16.camel@localhost.localdomain> <421D1083.5090605@apache.org> <421D91D7.6010607@uidesign.de> <421DAD17.7070806@apache.org> <1109687343.6527.64.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42249147.9020207@apache.org> <1109872882.5294.61.camel@localhost.localdomain> <42278371.7030500@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2005 11:24:40 +0100 Message-Id: <1109931880.6610.21.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.0.2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Thu, 2005-03-03 at 21:36 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > On Tue, 2005-03-01 at 15:59 +0000, Ross Gardler wrote: > > > >>Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > I'm only going to reply briefly to most of your points. But I will be > brief (well brief by my standards ;-)) because of the conclusion I come > to. I recommend reading to the end before replying as you may find it > saves you time (I sometimes reply as I read). :) I like your style ;-) I will wait with my answer after the weekend, but just some things: >Well my proposal is replacing skinconf and moving all the relevant parts > to a plugin specific configuration. Again, I'm having difficulty > understanding how this is different from your proposal (other than > document syntax). I see it on a per document basis not only on a plugin basis. > OK, I see your point. I am still lost here since the position of the > content does not affect the content. This is still presentation detail > and therefore not part of the fbits. You are right, like I said in [RT] forrest:templates practical experience "FURTHER REMARK: In xhtml the differents between nuggets and fbits is not really practical, in INX it is. In the fbits plugin (that we should rename to 'contracts') I am focussing for now just on html and I would rather call nuggets and fbits 'contracts' then trying to seperate them. This is because the processing for both are not different." >position of the > content does not affect the content -> yes, that is right but you can want to influence the content itself (e.g. different rssFeed for different site, ...) > Really I like it, that would be the way to go. > > That would solve another thing that I do not like on our current skinconf. The color tags are not self explaining. > > I would like them in the element that they are changing. > > IS this worth the trade-off of an unfamiliar syntax for CSS designers > and reduced reuse? hmm, I thought about something like: All other points I will answer hopefully after the weekend. salu2 -- thorsten "Together we stand, divided we fall!" Hey you (Pink Floyd)