Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 69732 invoked from network); 2 Jan 2005 20:32:45 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 2 Jan 2005 20:32:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 86310 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2005 20:32:43 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 86277 invoked by uid 500); 2 Jan 2005 20:32:43 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 86263 invoked by uid 99); 2 Jan 2005 20:32:43 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from natjimbo.rzone.de (HELO natjimbo.rzone.de) (81.169.145.162) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 12:32:40 -0800 Received: from [192.168.2.2] (80-28-118-91.adsl.nuria.telefonica-data.net [80.28.118.91]) by post.webmailer.de (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id j02KWZ1d027347 for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:32:36 +0100 (MET) Subject: Re: [Proposal] HTML as base Forrest format From: Thorsten Scherler To: forrest dev In-Reply-To: <41D8100E.7040505@apache.org> References: <41D6AA0D.507@apache.org> <1104597315.3895.2.camel@gci> <41D6DDEA.2050209@apache.org> <41D8100E.7040505@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: <1104697982.3583.28.camel@gci> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 21:33:02 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N El dom, 02-01-2005 a las 16:15, Ross Gardler escribi�: > Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > > The proposal is simply to deprecate the xdoc format as an *input* > > format, and concentrate on HTML4 and XHTML1.x for the _source_. > > Ok, I'm still +1 as it is still an intermediate step to XHTML as an > internal format (one of your original points I think). > > Your further point of "Be forgiving in what you accept, be strict in > what you deliver" seems to work alongside my point of using JTidy to fix > bad HTML to allow Forrest to work with it: > > HTML --> XDoc --> Output > > ... > > Thorsten, does you -1 still stand given Nicola's clarification. Yeah, -1 on HTML4 as official intermediate input format. -+0 on xhtml1.x. If we deprecate xdoc, IMO the *official* internal source should be xhtml2 (without any other intermediate solutions). I do not want to say that we should not support html4 nor xhtml1 as input format (of course we will) but I personally do not want to use it as official intermediate internal source. I guess if we want to reach forrest 1.0 we should do it with future standards and not officially supporting "a dead language (html4)". BTW the same is true for xslt, xpath,... I personally see the pipe like: (x)html or whatever input format (OO, inx, ..)/ -> xhtml2 (no xdocs) -> output -- thorsten "Together we stand, divided we fall!" Hey you (Pink Floyd)