Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 41135 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2004 20:30:25 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 6 Dec 2004 20:30:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 79790 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2004 20:30:24 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 79751 invoked by uid 500); 6 Dec 2004 20:30:24 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 79739 invoked by uid 99); 6 Dec 2004 20:30:24 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk (HELO pythagoras.zen.co.uk) (212.23.3.140) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with ESMTP; Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:30:23 -0800 Received: from [82.69.78.226] (helo=[192.168.0.2]) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1CbPUy-0005Jb-H6 for dev@forrest.apache.org; Mon, 06 Dec 2004 20:30:20 +0000 Message-ID: <41B4C15B.5020905@apache.org> Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2004 20:30:19 +0000 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Windows/20041103) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: Forrest-core (Re: mini-forrest) References: <41B24F8A.6080907@apache.org> <41B25D32.4020709@apache.org> <41B3242D.7020807@apache.org> <1102326295.3505.6.camel@gci> <41B45384.6060208@apache.org> <1102359330.41b4ab2301a08@secure.solidusdesign.com> In-Reply-To: <1102359330.41b4ab2301a08@secure.solidusdesign.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.69.78.226] X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Dave Brondsema wrote: > Quoting Ross Gardler : >=20 >=20 >>Thorsten Scherler wrote: >> >>>El dom, 05-12-2004 a las 16:07, Ross Gardler escribi=F3:=20 >>> >>> >>>>Sylvain Wallez wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>David Crossley wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>We could upgrade the cocoon xdocs to use these new DTDs because dur= ing=20 >>>>>>Cocoon's 'build docs' it calls Forrest to do the work. >>>>>> >>>>>>However, when running Cocoon as as a webapp and using the live=20 >>>>>>documentation localhost:8888/docs/ you would notice that it uses ol= d=20 >>>>>>stylesheets that are dependent on the old DTDs. Stuck ... >>>>> >>>>>Ah damn, I missed that point :-( >>>>> >>>>>Mmmh... can't Cocoon embed a "mini-Forrest" for this local publishin= g=20 >>>>>(with the appropriate warnings that it's not the full Forrest) just = like=20 >>>>>it embeds a "mini-Jetty"? >>>> >>>>As more and more functionality gets moved into plugins proper this wi= ll=20 >>>>become a possability. If someone were to create such a "mini-forrest"= we=20 >>>>could use this as a starting point for the fully plugin-ised Forrest.= =20 >>>>Basically we could have a branch for this mimi-forrest and as we move= =20 >>>>plugins out of core into plugins in that branch. >>> >>> >>>+ 1 >>> >=20 >=20 > -1 >=20 > I think the end result of a really small core and plugins for the capab= ilities=20 > is good, but this should be an iterative, gradual approach. Lets conti= nue to=20 > pull out input and output formats into plugins one at a time. >=20 > Even if someone has the desire and time to fork a "mini-forrest" (which= I doubt=20 > they do), a non-gradual change will hurt the ability of other developer= s to=20 > follow along and help. I have no problem with that argument. Ross