Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 84019 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2004 13:19:11 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 13:19:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 69469 invoked by uid 500); 29 Oct 2004 13:19:09 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-forrest-dev-archive@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 69417 invoked by uid 500); 29 Oct 2004 13:19:08 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@forrest.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: dev@forrest.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@forrest.apache.org Received: (qmail 69404 invoked by uid 99); 29 Oct 2004 13:19:08 -0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=10.0 tests= X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: neutral (hermes.apache.org: local policy) Received: from [217.199.181.91] (HELO ns3.wkwyw.net) (217.199.181.91) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.28) with SMTP; Fri, 29 Oct 2004 06:19:08 -0700 Received: (qmail 21855 invoked from network); 29 Oct 2004 13:19:06 -0000 Received: from 82-69-78-226.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk (HELO ?192.168.0.2?) (82.69.78.226) by ns3.wkwyw.net with SMTP; 29 Oct 2004 13:19:06 -0000 Message-ID: <41824348.2020305@apache.org> Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 14:19:04 +0100 From: Ross Gardler User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.8 (Windows/20040913) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dev@forrest.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Accept donation of IMSManifest plugin References: <418174A3.7000002@apache.org> <4181861D.1040004@brondsema.net> <418190C3.7090104@apache.org> <1099011725.22785.33348.camel@ighp> <4181AA4A.9060704@brondsema.net> In-Reply-To: <4181AA4A.9060704@brondsema.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Checked: Checked X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Dave Brondsema wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > >> Ross Gardler wrote: >> >>> Dave Brondsema wrote: >>> >>>> Ross Gardler wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> As I have mentioned numerous times before, I have a plugin that >>>>> replaces site.xml and tabs.xml with an IMSManifest file. This is a >>>>> standard format file for Learning Objects, but is also very useful >>>>> for more general content objects. >>>>> >>>> >>>> My only concern is that it would end up unmaintained. I am not >>>> familiar with IMSManifests or Learning Objects, and it seems that it >>>> is not a very common tool (yet). I don't know of anybody here >>>> besides you, Ross, that could support it. >>> >>> >>> It may not be a common tool in your environment, but trust me it is a >>> *very* common tool in the world of Learning Objects (or Content >>> Packages as many prefer to call them since any kind of training >>> material such as documentation can be stored within them). Take a >>> look at any commercial Virtual Learning Environment and it will >>> support the IMS standards, of course the Open Source ones support it >>> to0 (see http://www.atutor.ca, http://www.webct.com. >>> http://www.blackboard.com for three of the most commonly found >>> products). >>> > > Okay :-) We use BlackBoard here at Calvin College. It isn't the > greatest software, but I'll have to look in to this Learning Object > stuff some more. Yes, blackboard and all the other LCMS are rubbish (in my opinion) with respect to creating content. That's why we started the Burrokeet project. It is a tool for creating content that can be delivered through these apps (we use Forrest to generate the static pages). During the build I realised parts could be extracted and would be useful here. Ross