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Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 16:54:29 -0400
From: Dave Brondsema <dave@brondsema.net>
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Subject: Re: Don't License Samples
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Nick Chalko wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> 
>> Nick Chalko wrote:
>>  
>>
>>> I think this highlights the reason to NOT license samples designed to 
>>> be copied and by third parties, in the use of a product.
>>> For us that means that even thought Forrest is ASL 2,  all the files 
>>> generated by "forrest site"  should not be licensed, and should be 
>>> marked as such.
>>>   
>>
>>
>> No, the Apache License is enabling. It does not restrict your use.
>> Its intention is to let you use the work as is and to build upon
>> it with your own work.
>>
>> What part of the License do you have trouble with.
>>
>> We cannot distribute our work unlicensed.
>>
>>  
>>
> So walking though an example
> I am creating a new project.
> I do a "forrest seed"
> It generates for example  src/documentation/content./xdocs/index.xml
> 
> If index.xml contains the ASL2 (which it does)  then I must leave it 
> licensed that way.   Perhaps I am writing documentation that I don't 
> want to be very restrictive of.  (Think company confidential)
> 
> It seems to me that the ASL2 does not allow me to distribute DERIVATIVES 
> without having the DERIVATIVE also ASL2 covered.
> 
> The license reads in part
> 
>    / You may add Your own copyright statement to Your modifications and
>    may provide additional or different license terms and conditions for
>    use, reproduction, or distribution of Your modifications, or for any
>    such Derivative Works as a whole, provided Your use, reproduction,
>    and distribution of the Work otherwise complies with the conditions
>    stated in this License.
>    /
> 
> This implies to me that I have to let others modify and distribute the 
> documentation  I produce that is covered by the ASL2. This is not 
> appropriate for some of the documentation work I do.
> 
> Seems to me that  "forrest seed"   should produce files that says 
> something like
> 
>    /This file is generated with any warranties.  do what ever you want
>    with, including removing this notice./
> 
> 
> R,
> Nick
> 

Well the ASF mandates that all source files need to have the license 
header.  Perhaps we could say that the seed site is a form of 
documentation and therefore we don't need it?

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