Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 45175 invoked from network); 12 May 2004 13:22:44 -0000 Received: from hermes.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (209.237.227.199) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 12 May 2004 13:22:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 11790 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2004 13:22:25 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 11583 invoked by uid 500); 12 May 2004 13:22:22 -0000 Mailing-List: contact forrest-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 11504 invoked by uid 98); 12 May 2004 13:22:22 -0000 Received: from rgardler@apache.org by hermes.apache.org by uid 82 with qmail-scanner-1.20 (clamuko: 0.70. Clear:RC:0(217.199.181.91):. Processed in 0.07906 secs); 12 May 2004 13:22:22 -0000 X-Qmail-Scanner-Mail-From: rgardler@apache.org via hermes.apache.org X-Qmail-Scanner: 1.20 (Clear:RC:0(217.199.181.91):. Processed in 0.07906 secs) Received: from unknown (HELO wkwyw.ensim.dedicated-servers.co.uk) (217.199.181.91) by hermes.apache.org with SMTP; 12 May 2004 13:22:21 -0000 X-ClientAddr: 64.28.136.10 Received: from apache.org ([64.28.136.10]) (authenticated (0 bits)) by wkwyw.ensim.dedicated-servers.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i4CDLFb21288 for ; Wed, 12 May 2004 14:21:16 +0100 Message-ID: <40A224D1.2060806@apache.org> Date: Wed, 12 May 2004 09:21:21 -0400 From: Ross Gardler Organization: saafe.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: Quarterly Report References: <409DFEDE.4050005@wingsofhermes.org> <1084161077.2081.1617.camel@ighp> <409F0A58.6060406@brondsema.net> <409F6C18.6070403@brondsema.net> <409F8CA4.1010607@che-che.com> <1084229747.28156.1662.camel@ighp> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Rating: hermes.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: > Having committers that are not PMC members would be a new thing to do, > and we will have to discuss if/how to do it. I have kept my mouth shut on this issue as I am currently very inactive over here, however that makes this comment particularly relevant to myself. I, like others, have a concern about whether we have enough active people here at any one time to properly manage a top level project. This is a project that periodically goes through lean times. It seems most of us are making very good use of Forrest in its current form, and most of us have many plans for improving it, but we don't seem to be finding consitent time (certainly this is true forr me). Since, under your proposal, I could could still be a committer without implying any additional commitment to the PMC I was happy to go along with things. However, if this is a new thing and not been tested elsewhere at Apache I think it is imperative that we examine this in some detail. I suppose my real concern is, do we have enough people that do want to be on the PMC that will be consistently active there? If I understand the implications of the above quote correctly, other TLP's *requrie* people to be active on the PMC in order to be a committer. If we allow people to be committers but not PMC members will we still have enough active PMC members as we grow (more committers means more oversite work for the PMC). Having said all that, I would like to say that I fully support a move to a TLP as long as the above is not an issue. For my part I intend to become active here again just as soon as I can, but you've heard that before right? Ross