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From David Crossley <>
Subject Re: Quarterly Report
Date Thu, 13 May 2004 07:53:55 GMT
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: 
> David Crossley wrote:
> The fact is that *binding* votes can "legally" (IANAL) be case only by 
> PMC members. In an occasion I have been almost flamed for this, as I 
> said that -horror- committers can cast binding votes at Jakarta. In fact 
> there is nothing in our foundation bylaws that says this, it talks about 
> PMCs.

Well, it makes sense when one thinks about it.
Thanks for clarifying that.

We are in a strange situation at the moment then,
being at a sub-project level. We need the XML PMC to
vote on our releases, etc.

> >>Having committers that are not PMC members would be a new thing to do, 
> >>and we will have to discuss if/how to do it.
> > 
> > It is not that new - this is the situation at Cocoon. All committers
> > can *choose* whether to be on the PMC. For Forrest we would need to
> > decide how our PMC will be composed.
> As done for Gump, I'd say that initially every Forrest committer can 
> decide to add his name to the proposal file. If they are active, they 
> won't fail to do it.
> For the future, I would like to see something that is different from the 
> way Cocoon handles stuff. I mean, I would like to see all long-standing 
> committers be on the PMC, nobody excluded, and the PMC members be the 
> only one able to cast binding votes. Mind me, I said the "PMC members", 
> not "on the PMC private list".
> So effectively we would have PMC==(committers as usually known)
> The difference is that we could have people with commit access that are 
> not on the PMC, and that can't cast binding votes. This would be an new 
> figure, that Cocoon does not have. Rationale? If we need help on an 
> issue, and someone wants to help in SVN, we can give him partial access 
> to the repository and monitor his work *without* having to bring him on 
> the wagon with other longtime committers. I had posted a mail about this 
> some time ago IIRC.

Ah, now i see where you are coming from. Thanks.


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