Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 38495 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2003 03:09:47 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Nov 2003 03:09:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 33311 invoked by uid 500); 27 Nov 2003 03:09:28 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 33272 invoked by uid 500); 27 Nov 2003 03:09:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact forrest-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 33259 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2003 03:09:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO www2.kc.aoindustries.com) (65.77.211.84) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 27 Nov 2003 03:09:27 -0000 Received: from dialup-200.146.220.203.acc01-aubu-gou.comindico.com.au (dialup-200.146.220.203.acc01-aubu-gou.comindico.com.au [203.220.146.200]) (authenticated) by www2.kc.aoindustries.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id hAR4Afe19690 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:10:42 -0600 Subject: Re: website updates From: David Crossley To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1069902567.2429.9321.camel@ighp> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 (1.2.2-5) Date: 27 Nov 2003 14:09:28 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Dave Brondsema wrote: > AFAICT, the forrest website has not been updated lately. > Can this be done? Yes, it can be done. Do you know how? I can explain if you do not know. At one stage i think that we had the forrestbot doing it automatically, but AFAICT it is not happening now. I see discussions happening on various Apache mailing lists (especially infrastructure@) about ways to automate and stage the publishing. A few of us should participate there. In the meantime there is a way that we can semi-automate our website publish. Some projects have a cron job on www.apache.org that does the final 'cvs update'. You can see an example in my home bin directory. Actually, i just investigated further and see that Sam Ruby (rubys) has one of these for Forrest. So all that we should need is to cvs commit our built html/pdf into the xml-site/targets/forrest module. > There have been changes to the FAQ, for example, that > don't do much good if they're only on the forrestbot site. I have been updating certain pages one-by-one as needed. The FAQ was done recently (Nov 22), so that was a poor example, but i do get your drift. > Additionally, I will start documenting to the new forrestbot soon, but > obviously we don't want that to appear on the public site yet. I propose > that the public website use a cvs tag, like 'publish' to pull the correct > documents. In this way, most documents can be updated and 'publish'ed and > seen on the web relatively soon and documentation that is still under > development can be hidden from the public site. The trouble with cvs tags is that people forget to update them. I do not have a problem with us publishing docs that are under development - just put a Warning notice at the top. I suppose that you want to update the current "forrestbot.html" and friends to reflect the new forrestbot, yet we still need to keep the docs about the old forrestbot for the meantime. Is that the dilemma? Perhaps we could just copy the current doc to say "forrestbot-old.html" and make some links and notices. --David