Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: (qmail 32523 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 12:10:06 -0000 Received: from daedalus.apache.org (HELO mail.apache.org) (208.185.179.12) by minotaur-2.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 12:10:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 61136 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2003 12:10:02 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 60925 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 2003 12:10:01 -0000 Mailing-List: contact forrest-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 60876 invoked from network); 28 Oct 2003 12:10:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO otsrv1.iic.ugent.be) (157.193.121.51) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Oct 2003 12:10:00 -0000 Received: from outerthought.org (host115 [192.168.123.115]) by otsrv1.iic.ugent.be (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9SCA0a15882; Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:10:01 +0100 Message-ID: <3F9E5C9B.7040502@outerthought.org> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:10:03 +0100 From: Steven Noels Organization: Outerthought User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031013 Thunderbird/0.3 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lenya Developers List CC: dev@cocoon.apache.org, forrest-dev@xml.apache.org, server-dev@james.apache.org Subject: Re: [proposal] Doco References: <7B90A01F-093B-11D8-871A-000393D2CB02@apache.org> In-Reply-To: <7B90A01F-093B-11D8-871A-000393D2CB02@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N X-Spam-Rating: minotaur-2.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: >> Doco came to my mind when finding >> http://kokochi.com:8080/sapience/test.jsp in Hippo's blog. > > > Can I be anal for a sec? LOL. Sure, as long as you wipe properly afterwards, no problem here. :-) > cool, but what do we do with it? Well, since people had to come up with anti-spam measures for weblog comments, because of some nitwits which abuse the comment facility of modern weblog engines using automated tools, to raise Google rankings of spam-linked websites, I figure the same will start happening with any light-weight content contribution tool in the upcoming months. We have seen similar abuse on the Cocoon wiki as well. Rather than completely offload the burden of moderation to a bunch of people, we should come up with an upfront facility for blocking automated abuse. Similar to the facilities found in MSN Hotmail, Paypal and others who use some generated image to validate sign up for their system, having something like this Sapience thing might reduce the moderation burden in the long run. It's cool for sure, but it might be some good way to make sure only humans edit content, and not a bunch of malevolent bots. -- Steven Noels http://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open Source Java & XML An Orixo Member Read my weblog at http://blogs.cocoondev.org/stevenn/ stevenn at outerthought.org stevenn at apache.org