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From David Crossley <>
Subject Re: [proposal] Doco
Date Mon, 27 Oct 2003 00:35:36 GMT
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> Steven Noels wrote:
> > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
<snip what="stuff about wiki vandalism and annoyance"/>
> Different would be to have "f**k [insert your favorite public figure 
> here]" or child pornography passing thru the system, but in order to 
> happen, the chain of events that should happen are:
>   1) somebody does that kind of vandalism (so far, happened only a few 
> times)
>   2) a moderator sends "reply-to" instead of "reply-to-all" and *NO 
> OTHER MODERATOR* does anything (the probability of this event is, IMO, 
> already rare, redundancy of moderation should also reduce errors)

Unless i am mistaken, when there are multiple moderators then the
first moderation action wins and subsequent actions have no effect.
Redundancy of moderators just ensures that multiple people are always

>   3) the change is approved, approuval email is sent back to the 
> moderators list and nobody goes to the backend of the system to revert 
> the changes for 24 hours (again, pretty unlikely that I would receive 
> an email that says "this change was accepted by "blah" see the diff 
> inside" and I would just sit and watch... the 24 hour period should be 
> enough to get at least one other moderator see it... keep in mind that 
> moderators don't need to be necessarely committers)
> It is not impossible that such a chain of events happen. But it is not 
> so prone to errors as it might seem at first sight. [well, at least 
> that's my impression, practice might prove me dead wrong]
> > > That workflow is designed to prevent the vandalist acts but
> > > without slowing down the creative process.
> >
> > We definitely need some form of oversight. The current 'mass push' to 
> > a mailing list appears to be working quite well IMHO.
> We need "pre-emptive oversight" if we want to have the slight chance of 
> having the ASF infrastructure team allow us to use such a system in 
> practice.
> --
> Stefano.

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