Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 87506 invoked by uid 500); 19 Dec 2002 11:57:28 -0000 Mailing-List: contact forrest-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 87497 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2002 11:57:27 -0000 Received: from smtp3.ihug.com.au (203.109.250.76) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 19 Dec 2002 11:57:27 -0000 Received: from p613-apx1.syd.ihug.com.au (expresso.localdomain) [203.173.142.105] by smtp3.ihug.com.au with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 18OzIr-0005yT-00; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:57:26 +1100 Received: from jeff by expresso.localdomain with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OzJR-0002Es-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:58:01 +1100 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 22:58:00 +1100 From: Jeff Turner To: Apache Forrest Subject: Re: [rant] the difference between a community and a software Message-ID: <20021219115800.GE3095@expresso.localdomain> Mail-Followup-To: Apache Forrest References: <3E01A949.9030401@apache.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3E01A949.9030401@apache.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N On Thu, Dec 19, 2002 at 03:11:05AM -0800, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: ... [snip good stuff, except for the bit about arrogant bastards on forrest-dev which hits *far* too close to home:] > There is overlap between forrest and maven. Can this be reduced? > factored out? Is there overlap? Certainly if you read dreams.xml, you get the impression there _should_ be overlap, but practically, I don't see any. Forrest docs can't even link to Javadocs yet. The software landscape changed since dreams.xml was written, and it looks like Forrest's natural place is as a plugin to project management systems like Maven and Centipede. Fine with me. --Jeff