Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 73514 invoked by uid 500); 28 Dec 2002 05:01:36 -0000 Mailing-List: contact forrest-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 73505 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 05:01:36 -0000 Received: from ptolemy.goulburn.net.au (203.28.11.5) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 28 Dec 2002 05:01:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 21003 invoked from network); 28 Dec 2002 05:01:41 -0000 Received: from max-02-045.goulburn.net.au (203.28.11.234) by ptolemy.goulburn.net.au with SMTP; 28 Dec 2002 05:01:41 -0000 Subject: Re: What's going on here? From: David Crossley To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org In-Reply-To: <3E08DCD9.1010308@apache.org> References: <3E085C60.8080004@apache.org> <3E086563.6070603@outerthought.org> <3E08DCD9.1010308@apache.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 (1.0.8-10) Date: 28 Dec 2002 16:01:39 +1100 Message-Id: <1041051701.1508.2974.camel@ighp> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Steven Noels wrote: > > > The fact that it is being overpublicized is counterproductive. > > I totally agree with this. > > Forrest is *NOT* even close to be ready for prime time (it can't even > replace damn stylebook, for &deity;'s sake!) and I would not use it for > production (there is a reason if Cocoon itself doesn't use it!) > ... It is just that Cocoon docs and current publication process are very complex to get Forrest to build and publish. Also many hands are needed and not much action yet. See cocoon-docs list and the proposal-in-preparation at: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ForrestProposal Forrest is fine for prime time - many of us use it for production sites. I do not care if it is not fast - it does much of what i need already. In my opinion there is too much talk and new feature rush, and not enough attention to existing features and documentation. This is particularly evident on cocoon-dev but also forrest-dev. Such lack of polish is our main downfall. --David