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From Steven Noels <>
Subject Re: [RT] Entities in XML docs
Date Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:40:46 GMT
Joerg Pietschmann wrote:

> Can we have a survey on which XML editors people (doc editors)
> use, and how much they rely on on-the-fly XML validation repectively
> DTD direction of the editor?
> I use Emacs+PSGML, and while PSGML is DTD directed, I can insert
> any elements without problems, full validation is an external process
> anyway.

I use the heavily DTD/XMLSchema-directed editor XMetal. Besides, I also 
use Stylus and (sometimes) XMLSpy.

> As you might have guessed, I usually oppose the creation of new
> languages, even (especially!) simple ones like ${} substitution. Every
> new language means
> - Full spec. BTW your proposal is heavily underspecified. E.g. what is the
>   prefix in ${some:ambiguous:stuff}?
> - Unexpected interactions with other mechanisms, potential for name
>   clashes etc.
> - Write a customized toolset.
> - Dependency on the availability of said tools in other environments, like
>   IDEs, other toolsets etc.
> You know, I'm not really a fan of "specification by implementation", look
> what happened to the "easy and intuitive" C preprocessor.

Wise words - thanks, Joerg!

Steven Noels                  
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