Return-Path: Delivered-To: apmail-xml-forrest-dev-archive@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 65590 invoked by uid 500); 12 Nov 2002 09:53:33 -0000 Mailing-List: contact forrest-dev-help@xml.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk list-help: list-unsubscribe: list-post: Reply-To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Received: (qmail 65581 invoked from network); 12 Nov 2002 09:53:32 -0000 Received: from fep01.tuttopmi.it (HELO fep01-svc.flexmail.it) (212.131.248.100) by daedalus.apache.org with SMTP; 12 Nov 2002 09:53:32 -0000 Received: from apache.org ([80.204.154.181]) by fep01-svc.flexmail.it (InterMail vM.5.01.05.09 201-253-122-126-109-20020611) with ESMTP id <20021112095343.SRPF1512.fep01-svc.flexmail.it@apache.org> for ; Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:53:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3DD0CF5C.4060709@apache.org> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 10:52:28 +0100 From: Nicola Ken Barozzi Reply-To: nicolaken@apache.org Organization: Apache Software Foundation User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org Subject: Re: [VOTE] Forrest 0.2 release References: <20021112092811.GC6712@expresso.localdomain> <3DD0CDB1.4090401@outerthought.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Rating: daedalus.apache.org 1.6.2 0/1000/N Steven Noels wrote: > Jeff Turner wrote: > >> Second try :) >> >> While Nicola and I try to whack ideas into each others heads, I think we >> really do need a release before both of us commit a bunch of new >> features. >> >> So I propose we: >> >> - Write a minimal Tomcat-style etc/RELEASE-NOTES-0.2.txt mentioning open >> bugs. >> - tag current CVS as 'FORREST_02', but excluding the contentious patch >> - generate source and binary distributions (incl. release notes in root) >> and put them somewhere public. >> - draft a minimal email announcing the release, review it here on >> forrest-dev, then send to general@ and announce@ > > > While releasing is good, I'm not so sure whether we have the right > motivation to do so right now. > > A lot of the stuff isn't finished (the Wiki stuff & DTDs basically), nor > can we offer a binding contract / migration path to our users IMHO. It's a 0.x release, and OS projectrs are never finished ;-) > If you want to tag for easier bookkeeping - please go ahead. Internal > release, without announce mails: +1 I'd make an announcement, but clearly state that it's not a final one, just to help users try out Forrest's features with a release as they have requested. > But all in all, I think we need to stabilize and package before we can > publicly release. Remember there is no second chance for a first > impression. > > And as you all know, we will have time, energy & focus to work on > Forrest for 6 weeks full-time after the GetTogether. Part of that time > can go to updating & solidifying documentation, and testing the new > additions. > > (oh my god, I'm gonna be flamed for this - but the 0.1 release mail has > been sitting in my draft folder since 2002/07/16, honestly) > > (I haven't cast my vote yet) > > Let's just do a quick release with just "technical" announcement, especially to the projects like incubator and commons that are starting to use it. -- Nicola Ken Barozzi nicolaken@apache.org - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) ---------------------------------------------------------------------