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From "Robert Koberg" <>
Subject RE: including scripting in output files
Date Mon, 04 Nov 2002 16:34:18 GMT

If your goal is to output PHP, then I think a tool like forrest (or any XSL
based tool) is not what you want.

>From a quick search I did not see any way to create well-formed PHP. The
workarounds to get the PHP output through XSL would be painful and ugly to say
the least.

This, in my view, is a failing of PHP - it can't be well-formed. JSP had the
same problem but SUN introduced well-formed JSP.

I would say that minimally you need to understand basic XML to use a tool like

Maybe more searching would turn up  something like:

blah blah


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rodent of Unusual Size [mailto:Ken.Coar@Golux.Com]
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 8:17 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: including scripting in output files
> Steven Noels wrote:
> >
> > I don't follow your argument about developers vs designers
> > though: real authors wouldn't put <?php fragments into their
> > content, won't they?
> why not?  see the bottom.
> > Nope, an XML course hasn't been included into the Forrest
> > docs - as with Anakia, Stylebook and other site-generation
> > related Apache tools... would this be useful?
> i am reading this as facetious.  the above seems tantamount to
> the statement 'in order to use forrest [effectively], you must
> know xml.'  that's not going to win popularity contests.  i think
> it most likely that people coming to forrest (or at least trying
> to) will have even less xml experience than i.  they don't *want*
> to know xml; they want to know what they need to put where in order
> to make their site look/behave the way they want.  many will be
> content with <section>, <title>, <p> and the like, at least for
> starters.  they're going to want to use forrest because it makes
> their job *easier*, not because they can use it as an excuse to
> enhance their resumes.
> as for php:  take a look at <url:> and
> <url:>.  26% (nine million plus) of web
> sites use php.  do you think making interoperability easy should be
> a goal for forrest?  i do.. but i'm only a user.

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