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From Jeff Turner <>
Subject Re: Filesystem layout (Re: Skin rewrite: 0.2 release?)
Date Tue, 12 Nov 2002 11:09:55 GMT
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 11:43:04AM +0100, Steven Noels wrote:
> Jeff Turner wrote:
> >:)  I think we need a proper Forrest roadmap, with use-cases and a
> >concrete, technical step-by-step guide, in order to prevent
> >misunderstandings like this from happening again.
> +1
> I don't know what has been happening recently, and sure lots of it is 
> simply Good Stuff, but I have problems with this new eagerness to throw 
> stuff over the wall into the open.

What do they say about omelettes and breaking eggs.. :)  You get to be
our Voice of Sanity.

> I'm in good standing with the 'release early & often' strategy, but if
> we are claiming to be best-practices-driven, I don't see why we
> shouldn't take the time to double-check these practices.
> I have been one of the advocates of 'let the user decide how he will 
> organize its resources' in the past, so I tend to agree with the idea 
> Nicola is pushing forward.

I'm also in favour of the idea, just very against the implementation :)
The first thing I did in Forrest was to un-hardcode the required
filesystem.  Admittedly, in a stupid way, rearranging the fs instead of
parametrising the sitemap, but back then I didn't know about input
modules :)

> OTOH, generalizing remarks from single individuals as 'general user 
> requests' will bring us to FS sooner rather than later. So we need more 
> debate ad perhaps a vote, sorry.

How about..

 - If non-trivial, mention a proposed addition on forrest-dev
 - If no comments, lazy consensus applies and change gets made
 - Anyone feel free to -1 a dubious addition.  Remember that each commit
   should have a status.xml update, describing from a user's POV what the
   change is.


> I know I'm doing the best I can to make myself immensely unpopular right 
> now. But maybe I'm simply too afraid to throw shit towards the fan (and 
> don't take this too literally!!)
> </Steven>
> -- 
> Steven Noels                  
> Outerthought - Open Source, Java & XML Competence Support Center
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