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From "Marc Portier" <...@outerthought.org>
Subject RE: [PATCH] acorn.xml: bootstrapping new projects
Date Mon, 19 Aug 2002 09:08:22 GMT
[on your question]

No...
After installation of ant and cvs you can get and install
forrest and start using it. (we recommend currently the bot
for usage inside your own project)

And yes...
To the ones that are interested: Inside forrest distribution
there is all the centipede (and cocoon for that matter) it
needs to actually work for you. (centipede in fact only for
own builds)

However this is pretty much of the nature:
"what you don't know, doesn't hurt you (that much)" -- Larry
Wall
Unless there is some religious fanatic hiding inside you
(and you start hurting others :-))


[on missing the point]

I think a lot of people here share your (non explicit) fear
to get forrest be overly dependent on this that and the
other.
I also think this discussion sets us going towards managing
those dependencies more clearly.
We should get rid of the current blur that hides to often
'the point'.


regards,
-marc=

> -----Original Message-----
> From: dion@multitask.com.au [mailto:dion@multitask.com.au]
> Sent: maandag 19 augustus 2002 10:53
> To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [PATCH] acorn.xml: bootstrapping new projects
>
>
> In case I'm missing the point of some of this
> discussion, does all this
> mean that you'll need Centipede installed to run forrest?
> --
> dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting
> Work:      http://www.multitask.com.au
> Developers: http://adslgateway.multitask.com.au/developers
>
>
> "Marc Portier" <mpo@outerthought.org> wrote on
> 19/08/2002 05:58:47 PM:
>
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Crossley [mailto:crossley@indexgeo.com.au]
> > >
> > > Thanks for the "acorn" idea (love the metaphor)
> > > and the patch.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > > We will look into it ASAP. I have it running
> on my system.
> > >
> >
> > me too.
> >
> > <snip />
> >
> > >
> > > Your acorn idea is a good one that seems to
> complement the
> > > "forrestbot" and would assist Forrest uptake. We
> > > will await
> > > a little discussion during the week to build upon it.
> >
> > acorn sure fills a gap today, and as such should be in
> > there.  (there is some possible confusion with the
> > forrestbot: the current advocated way, but
> documentation and
> > a future better design of the build should solve that)
> >
> > acorn however is not (IMHO) sufficiently making the real
> > separation (as discussed) we need, so having
> this should not
> > take attention away from still making the build-redesign
> > that offers that.
> >
> > acorn would still deserve a future inside forrest (IMHO
> > again) 1. it could evolve into some
> easy-install mechanism
> > for forrest. 2. the build-template idea should
> inspire one
> > of the real things forrest can do for you (next
> to building
> > your docs)
> >
> >
> > just my 2c.
> > -marc=
> >
>


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