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Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 10:00:59 +0200
To: forrest-dev@xml.apache.org
From: Bert Van Kets <bert@vankets.com>
Subject: Re: Browser checkout
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Hi Rob,

At 17:12 26/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Bert,
>
>It looks decent (not fond of the design...) on the OS X (IE5.1.4, MozRC1, 
>Nav6 - also used win2000IE6 as a reference). There are a few minor things:
>
>[I can send/post screen grabs if you want]
>
>1. the content area has no padding or margin between the top line of text 
>and the page numbering row (light blue). They butt up to each other.

That's because I simply added text in the content part.  I did not use a 
<P> or <h2> tag.  No problem.  This will be solved by itself once the real 
content is put in there.

>2. there seems to be too much padding between nav items on the left in IE, 
>but too little in Moz/Nav
>-- all seem to indent too much

I know, but that can't be fixed in HTML.  It's the difference in which 
these browsers interpret the <ul> tag.  CSS can help here.  Besides, I was 
pretty sure the menu system would be built up in a different way.  The 
design from Stefano clearly suggests a dynamic menu (using client side 
JavaScript?).  Any opinions from the group?

>3. text seems larger on the mac

That's normal.  The Mac will use the Helvetica font while the PC will use 
the Arial one.  I will change the Arial and Helvetica fonts around.  This 
should cure it.  Check my mail on browsers I'm going to send after this 
one, please.

>4. there is at least one font tag

Guess you didn't finish this sentence (?)  Let me know.


>All in all it looks good. I would suggest dumping the rounded corners. 
>There is no real benefit and they require many nested tables (table for 
>each tab...).

Yep, it was a real challenge. I'm actually proud of the result.  At a given 
point I really doubted that I was going to be able to get it done.  The 
design is not an easy one and is indeed not "code friendly".


>-Rob
>
>
>Bert Van Kets wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>before I go on optimizing the page I created, I would like you to test it 
>>on your browsers and report me the problems you get.  If possible send a 
>>screendump please.
>>So far it's been tested on Netscape 4.08, Opera 5, Opera 6, IE5.0, IE 6, 
>>Mozilla RC2 and lynx 2.8.3.  The page and text are perfectly scalable and 
>>viewable with images off.  No CSS has been used so far, but I suggest it 
>>is used for the content and the menu only (CSS1 only, of course).
>>You can find it at http://www.dream-models.com/forrest/
>>I am curious for your reactions.
>>Bert
>>
>>P.S. I had to cheat a little at one place to get it right.  The one who 
>>can find it will get .....
>>...
>>...
>>...
>>recognition for it ;-)
>>
>>
>>"My spelling is Wobbly.  It's good spelling but it Wobbles, and the letters
>>  get in the wrong places." A. A. Milne (1882-1958)
>
>