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From: "Ivelin Ivanov" <ivelin@apache.org>
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Subject: Re: Forrest HTML (was: draft howto dtd)
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:32:46 -0500
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My only comment is:

Can't believe you're doin all this by yourself !

It usually takes enterprise usability teams months and months to do
something like that.

Bert Rocks !


Ivelin


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bert Van Kets" <bert@vankets.com>
To: <forrest-dev@xml.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: Forrest HTML (was: draft howto dtd)


> At 10:48 25/05/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>
> >Another minor comment about the current Forrest layout.
> >
> >It appears that the font size of the body text is fixed.
> >I usually use larger fonts setting in the browser, but it doesn't
> >affect Forrest pages.
> >
> >
> >Ivelin
>
> That's because the current design of Forrest is mainly based on CSS and
teh
> font sizes are set fixed.
> I'm doing a completely new HTML coding of the page to be compatible with
> older browser versions.  My target is Netscape 4.08!  When a site runs
fine
> on that one, it will run on most anything.  I''m not completely done, but
> it's going pretty well.  I'm basing my layout on the design from
> Stefano.  It looks a lot better than the current one.
> I'm also taking people with bad vision into account and will make text
> sizable. Blind people are not forgotten either, so all images have their
> alt and height and width tags.
>
> I will check the HTML with following browsers:
> - Internet Explorer 4 (Win95)
> - Internet Explorer 5.0 (Win98)
> - Internet Explorer 5.5 (Win98)
> - Internet Explorer 6 (Win2K)
> - Netscape Navigator 4.08 (Win98)
> - Netscape Communicator 4.79 (Win98)
> - Netscape Communicator 4.79 (Suse Linux 7.3)
> - Netscape 6.2.2 (Win2K)
> - Lynx 2.4.2 (Win98 Dos prompt)
> - Lynx 2.8.3 (Win2K Dos prompt)
> - Opera 5.02 (Win98)
> - Opera 6.02 (Win2K)
>
> I think I've got enough with these.  Does anybody need tests with other?
>
> My main criteria are:
> - Navigation must be possible in all versions
> - Style must be as similar as possible to the graphical design in all
browsers
> - The page must give the impression of fast loading.  (NOT putting
> everything in 1 table is a must for this one)
> - page must be browsable and look "OK" with graphics off
> - code must comply to W3C standards
> - Visitor must not be forced upon a certain text size or screen size (I
> hate "best viewed with" messages)  Specially the text resizing is not easy
> if you want to maintain an look.
>
> All this will be poured in a forrest skin.  Long live this technology!
>
> I'm doing my best to get the code ready ASAP.
>
> Any comments or additions?
>
> Bert
>