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From Bert Van Kets <>
Subject Re: Forrest HTML
Date Sun, 26 May 2002 08:55:03 GMT
At 22:14 25/05/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi David,
>David Crossley wrote:
>>Bert Van Kets wrote:
>>>Robert Koberg wrote:
>>>>There are alot of platforms and browsers to cover. Does this need to 
>>>>work on all of them? What is the criteria to exclude a platform/browser 
>>>>from the accepted list? There should really be some statistics as to 
>>>>what of types of browsers are coming to apache.
>>>The logs of the webserver can provide that info.  Who do we need to call 
>>>upon for this one??
>>At one stage in early Forrest, there were some people working
>>on automated graphs of server and project statistics. During
>>that discussion there was talk of access to certain logfiles
>>and summaries. I tried to find the discussion, but no luck.
>>Here is one bit ...
>>Re: Graph data
>>However, do we really need to know? Will browser and OS statistics
>>actually help us? I think not. Let us stick to the cleanest
>>(X)HTML code that we can manage with our powerful tools.
>Well the cleanest would be using CSS :) But the reason to check what 
>browsers the users actually use will tell us what browsers *need* to look 
>perfect. Those that fall into a certain low percentage and display the 
>page incorrectly are not considered in testing,  nor is time spent on 
>trying to make it work.

I don't agree since you will be getting a VERY false image on browser 
use.  Let me give an extreme example:  You have a page that is only 
viewable on IE.  How many Netscape hits do you think you will get?  NONE!
We must start out with the most common delimiter starting from a certain 
browser version and a certain group of browser types (IE4, NS 4.08 Opera5 
and Lynx 2.4).  Only after a certain period of time will the server stats 
tell of we can upgrade our technology.



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