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From Robert Koberg <>
Subject Re: some Forrest pages are browser killers
Date Fri, 24 May 2002 02:03:33 GMT

David Crossley wrote:

>Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
>>From: "David Crossley" <>
>>>Something in the primer document is a browser killer !!!
>>>No trouble with Mozilla on Linux. However, when i use
>>>Netscape 4.78 on Linux ... boom ... instant death during
>>>reading of the HTML. It did not even start to render the
>>>page ... Netscape just vanished.
>>>I have only seen it happen with two pages:
>>>primer.html and document-v11.html
>>>I have no clues as to why.
>>CSS does have this effect on NS 7.
>>It is a quite known thing, allthough it's the first time it happens to me
>Then i would like to see us using far more basic CSS ... there is no
>need to kill such a commonly used browser. Nothing in our page
>design needs to be that fancy.

I wonder who if anybody can push the envelope?  Are there any statistics 
on browser percentage? Why doesn't cocoon run on java1.0? I wonder how 
many hits from Nav4.n browsers are people trying to make sure their site 
works on Nav4.n...

I thought Forrest was supposed to be a best of breed thing. If you want 
a tight L&F across browsers you *need* nested tables. Is that what you 
really want? I would think a forward thiysteg project would focus on 
standards compliant browsers and let the rest eat basic html.  

What is the promise of cocoon? I am drawn to it because it purports to 
make it easy to render you content in a format suitable for your client. 
But, it seems that we want to make the most dumbed down version to 
support inferior products.


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