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From: Josh Elser <elserj@apache.org>
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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2017 10:55:21 -0400
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Thanks, John. Consider this mentor +1 then.

On 7/5/17 7:03 PM, John D. Ament wrote:
> For what it's worth, I have no concerns with Fluo's graduation based on the
> conversation here.
> 
> John
> 
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 7:02 PM Josh Elser <elserj@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>>
>> On 7/5/17 1:51 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi Josh,
>>>
>>> I have some questions:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 5, 2017, at 10:18 AM, Josh Elser <elserj@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As a mentor, I consciously avoided an explicit "+1" until we got some
>> IPMC discussion. Let me expand:
>>>>
>>>> The current members of Fluo are great, get the Apache Way, and are
>> self-sufficient. I have no concerns over them operating as a TLP -- I think
>> they are ready. However, they have only added a single committer and I see
>> none in the pipeline -- Fluo is defined by the current committers.
>>>
>>> (1) Seems to be a niche project as you state below which is just within
>> the range of 5 contributors. Am I wrong?
>>
>> Yup, that sounds about right. I'm notice three of them being the most
>> active, but I tend to not watch that closely.
>>
>>>> My hesitation is balancing the Incubators goal of "pushing podlings to
>> graduate" and ensuring adequate diversity in the podling. This is
>> especially difficult for Fluo as they're "niche on niche" (it's a difficult
>> dist-sys problem/software, and not many people use the tech they're
>> building on top of given my view of the world).
>>>>
>>>> I realize that this discussion could easily spiral out of control,
>> turning into some meta-discussion about Incubator goals. I want to avoid
>> that.
>>>>
>>>> I'm looking for some feelings from other IPMC folks about how to
>> approach the Fluo podling given their specific circumstances. If other
>> people are also hesitant, I would also be interested in suggestions about
>> what we would concretely change (because I don't know what to suggest that
>> "fix" the diversity issue for them that isn't changing the core of their
>> project). If people aren't worried, I'm happy to give an explicit +1.
>>>
>>> (2) Has any consideration been given to becoming a project within
>> Accumulo? Or are the goals of Fluo distinct from and not wholly dependent
>> on Accumulo?
>>>
>>> (3) Corollary - it seems a large number of Fluo Initial Committers were
>> also Accumulo PMC. (I not intentionally rehashing any prior conversation.)
>>>
>>
>> Will leave Christopher's response to (thoroughly) answer this ;)
>>
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