Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C5D200B64 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:17:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 7250B160A76; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id BA7ED160A65 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 22:17:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 68755 invoked by uid 500); 2 Aug 2016 20:17:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@fluo.incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@fluo.incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@fluo.incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 68743 invoked by uid 99); 2 Aug 2016 20:17:33 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd4-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:17:33 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd4-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd4-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 34F0DC0957 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:17:33 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd4-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.72 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.72 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd4-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=deenlo-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mx2-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd4-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.11]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id k_BxBoCbBQp6 for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-oi0-f45.google.com (mail-oi0-f45.google.com [209.85.218.45]) by mx2-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx2-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 817D060D7A for ; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 20:17:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l65so252616412oib.1 for ; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 13:17:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=deenlo-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=xDwqIo+hlId2dfDcwGCPJPpPCRsuNICmkjWONU76tlY=; b=IqDkzBgSJGp8EVzol4a9LinLfyKAmoOv0FasFlRuNvWSci0wesbUZmLM1BdEev+671 3XK4eDg3gdE9QsEWqGGvz/y84YlnJwVwb9m9x7KDaMeyd8eXBHC0uOMq5ilJ3X09XSZm q/5lsHf3qGjSch/0rremEImYfA8QeXXzcVacl/I1L74MNV6BNIuTjErn7MFQREWGX49p ipK+V0ykYcISOG02nlc5BQISVxvBXNp5AzwIodOvIhLiHaZVpkAstXuld/YVhnKwmtpq L4Gl9FPJSnhKSxVCjcjWESpVEdMJzUQHwvUCh3nIYG8dGyCNfUuJEBX6l8EJM4T9St/9 FB0Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=xDwqIo+hlId2dfDcwGCPJPpPCRsuNICmkjWONU76tlY=; b=FiBzX292EqaTwSNIE0YGzGdFiq8fVxveiJnLmlWhdCZ5OdMFjD6GZkRyQ0JK6HRmYs 8cLOY35yGCJYifePBJ5vgmUIlhHF0LJTVSo55nIRafD7Aqpwr6G2O29g9prUQm/QRfV/ xO7lImG7UKAz0jm6u3yEDCVqkhhEgjmPUxBUu/zHTsXQ86Z2TtT8HFIEhy0LHag4ECqn FdIwlnYCuAYh6hcMY1TvW3PSlLGI2onXQxkVB0Gz+DurFw3liUtLECE7zqCD6fQqvxNA qcLYihWwbCBd/abP3omFfaRFzwz33uraVGwz1wJT1q+JJvgf//3txJfTwePXIy7lAUdD w/Jw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouvPsCHONlTRsElYhyjcbgASNkBqBUmnECrofVrshKOljE5ivyKg8bgVzPLsB3fPvFV5jYGFTSeP3bo8VQ== X-Received: by 10.202.220.135 with SMTP id t129mr39142362oig.31.1470169050201; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 13:17:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.202.4.18 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 13:17:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57A0FCFD.2050205@gmail.com> References: <57A0FCFD.2050205@gmail.com> From: Keith Turner Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 16:17:29 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] "Related projects" To: dev@fluo.incubator.apache.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 archived-at: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:17:35 -0000 On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Josh Elser wrote: > Hi, > > I figured it would be prudent to start a thread on this. > > The more I re-read http://fluo.incubator.apache.org/related-projects/, the > more confused I am on the state of things. > > While I do know that the original Incubation proposal only included the > "core" and "recipes" pieces, I don't think I realized that scope of how many > parallel projects existed in the github.com/fluo-io umbrella. Why have so > many of these been left in the github org instead of following into the ASF? > > To paraphrase from the general@incubator VOTE's, separate communities are > indeed allowed and fine for Fluo. The most clear point I can probably bring > is that the community members are likely 1:1 across the PPMC and the fluo-io > on Github (please tell me if I'm wrong). If I had to guess, this is what > sent up red flags to the other IPMC members. > > Why would you want to keep something like fluo-quickstart completely > separated from the Apache Fluo community? I would think a project like that > would be *extremely* useful in helping to attract new users and developers > to Fluo. For me, part of it is that things can be much more fluid outside of Apache. For example I Am working on Fluo Tour for the website that walks a user step by step through all of Fluo's features. I am thinking of renaming fluo-quickstart to fluo-tour for this and having the website point to it. Based on past experience these simple things are not easy in Apache. However may be we can plan for the lack of fluidity and create one github repo for example code called fluo-examples in Apache land. Then place all example code the website links to there under separate directories. > > Would love to hear what you all think. > > - Josh