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From Dan Hill <quietgol...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Flink Table SQL, Kafka, partitions and unnecessary shuffling
Date Wed, 16 Sep 2020 19:44:23 GMT
Hi Dawid!

I see.  Yea, this would break my job after I move away from the prototype.

How do other Flink devs avoid unnecessary reshuffles when sourcing data
from Kafka?  Is the Table API early or not used often?




On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 12:31 PM Dawid Wysakowicz <dwysakowicz@apache.org>
wrote:

> Hi Dan,
>
> I am afraid there is no mechanism to do that purely in the Table API yet.
> Or I am not aware of one. If the reinterpretAsKeyedStream works for you,
> you could use this approach and convert a DataStream (with the
> reinterpretAsKeyedStream applied) to a Table[1] and then continue with the
> Table API.
>
> On the topic of reinterpretAsKeyedStream, I wanted to stress out one
> thing. I'd like to bring your attention to this warning:
>
> *WARNING*: The re-interpreted data stream *MUST* already be
> pre-partitioned in *EXACTLY* the same way Flink’s keyBy would partition
> the data in a shuffle w.r.t. key-group assignment.
>
> I think it is not trivial(or even not possible?) to achieve unless both
> the producer and the consumer are Flink jobs with the same parallelism.
>
> Best,
>
> Dawid
>
>
> [1]
> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-release-1.11/dev/table/common.html#convert-a-datastream-or-dataset-into-a-table
> On 16/09/2020 18:22, Dan Hill wrote:
>
> Hi Piotr!  Yes, that's what I'm using with DataStream.  It works well in
> my prototype.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 8:58 AM Piotr Nowojski <pnowojski@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Have you seen "Reinterpreting a pre-partitioned data stream as keyed
>> stream" feature? [1] However I'm not sure if and how can it be integrated
>> with the Table API. Maybe someone more familiar with the Table API can help
>> with that?
>>
>> Piotrek
>>
>> [1]
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/flink/flink-docs-stable/dev/stream/experimental.html#reinterpreting-a-pre-partitioned-data-stream-as-keyed-stream
>>
>> śr., 16 wrz 2020 o 05:35 Dan Hill <quietgolfer@gmail.com> napisał(a):
>>
>>> How do I avoid unnecessary reshuffles when using Kafka as input?  My
>>> keys in Kafka are ~userId.  The first few stages do joins that are usually
>>> (userId, someOtherKeyId).  It makes sense for these joins to stay on the
>>> same machine and avoid unnecessary shuffling.
>>>
>>> What's the best way to avoid unnecessary shuffling when using Table SQL
>>> interface?  I see PARTITION BY on TABLE.  I'm not sure how to specify the
>>> keys for Kafka.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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