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From Robert Metzger <rmetz...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Create a Flink ecosystem website
Date Tue, 23 Jul 2019 09:06:38 GMT
Thanks a lot Marta for offering to write a blog post about the community
site!

I'm not sure if multi-language support for the site is a good idea. I see
the packages site as something similar to GitHub or Jira. The page itself
contains very view things we could actually translate. The package owners
usually are only able to provide one or two languages for their package
description.
For the comments, we don't want disjoint discussions to happen.

I've also kicked off a discussion with Apache legal on the initiative [1].
We might not be able to host this at Apache, but let's see where the
discussion goes.


[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/ee76a02257b51292ab61f6ac8d3d69307e83cc569cdeebde80596207@%3Clegal-discuss.apache.org%3E


On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 5:25 AM Becket Qin <becket.qin@gmail.com> wrote:

> [Sorry for the incomplete message. Clicked send by mistake...]
>
> I agree with Marta that it might be good to have multi-language support as
> a mid-term goal.
>
> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 11:22 AM Becket Qin <becket.qin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The website is awesome! I really like its conciseness and yet fairly
>> useful information and functionalities. I cannot think of much to improve
>> at the moment. Just one thought, do we need an "others" category, just in
>> case a package does not fit into any of the current given categories?
>>
>> Thanks Robert and Daryl for the great effort. Looking forward to seeing
>> this get published soon!!
>>
>> I agree with Marta that
>>
>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 20, 2019 at 1:34 AM Marta Paes Moreira <marta@ververica.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey, Robert.
>>>
>>> I will keep an eye on the overall progress and get started on the blog
>>> post
>>> to make the community announcement. Are there (mid-term) plans to
>>> translate/localize this website as well? It might be a point worth
>>> mentioning in the blogpost.
>>>
>>> Hats off to you and Daryl — this turned out amazing!
>>>
>>> Marta
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 10:57 AM Congxian Qiu <qcx978132955@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Robert and Daryl, thanks for the great work, I tried the website and
>>> filed
>>> > some issues on Github.
>>> > Best,
>>> > Congxian
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Robert Metzger <rmetzger@apache.org> 于2019年7月17日周三 下午11:28写道:
>>> >
>>> >> Hey all,
>>> >>
>>> >> Daryl and I have great news to share. We are about to finish adding
>>> the
>>> >> basic features to the ecosystem page.
>>> >> We are at a stage where it is ready to be reviewed and made public.
>>> >>
>>> >> You can either check out a development instance of the ecosystem page
>>> >> here: https://flink-ecosystem-demo.flink-resources.org/
>>> >> Or you run it locally, with the instructions from the README.md:
>>> >> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>> >>
>>> >> Please report all issues you find here:
>>> >> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem/issues or in this thread.
>>> >>
>>> >> The next steps in this project are the following:
>>> >> - We fix all issues reported through this testing
>>> >> - We set up the site on the INFRA resources Becket has secured [1],
do
>>> >> some further testing (including email notifications) and pre-fill the
>>> page
>>> >> with some packages.
>>> >> - We set up a packages.flink.apache.org or flink.apache.org/packages
>>> >> domain
>>> >> - We announce the packages through a short blog post
>>> >>
>>> >> Happy testing!
>>> >>
>>> >> Best,
>>> >> Robert
>>> >>
>>> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18010
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 6:23 AM Becket Qin <becket.qin@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> Thanks for the update, Robert. Looking forward to the website. If
>>> there
>>> >>> is already a list of software we need to run the website, we can
ask
>>> Apache
>>> >>> infra team to prepare the VM for us, as that may also take some
time.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 11:57 PM Robert Metzger <rmetzger@apache.org
>>> >
>>> >>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Hey all,
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> quick update on this project: The frontend and backend code
have
>>> been
>>> >>>> put together into this repository:
>>> >>>> https://github.com/sorahn/flink-ecosystem
>>> >>>> We also just agreed on an API specification, and will now work
on
>>> >>>> finishing the backend.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It will probably take a few more weeks for this to finish, but
we
>>> are
>>> >>>> making progress :)
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Best,
>>> >>>> Robert
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Robert Metzger <
>>> rmetzger@apache.org>
>>> >>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Hey Daryl,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> thanks a lot for posting a link to this first prototype
on the
>>> mailing
>>> >>>>> list! I really like it!
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Becket: Our plan forward is that Congxian is implementing
the
>>> backend
>>> >>>>> for the website. He has already started with the work, but
needs
>>> at least
>>> >>>>> one more week.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> [Re-sending this email because the first one was blocked
on
>>> dev@f.a.o]
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 7:59 AM Becket Qin <becket.qin@gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Hi Daryl,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot for the update. The site looks awesome!
This is a
>>> great
>>> >>>>>> progress. I really like the conciseness of GUI.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> One minor suggestion is that for the same library, there
might be
>>> >>>>>> multiple versions compatible with different Flink versions.
It
>>> would be
>>> >>>>>> good to show that somewhere in the project page as it
seems
>>> important to
>>> >>>>>> the users.
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> BTW, will you share the plan to move forward? Would
additional
>>> hands
>>> >>>>>> help?
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Jiangjie (Becket) Qin
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 7:10 PM Daryl Roberts <
>>> daryl@ververica.com>
>>> >>>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> > Shall we add a guide page to show people how
to publish their
>>> >>>>>>> projects to the website? The exact rules can be
discussed and
>>> drafted in a
>>> >>>>>>> separate email thread IMO
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> This is a good idea. (Both the guise, and separate
thread), I
>>> think
>>> >>>>>>> once there is an actual packed in place we’ll
be in a lot better
>>> position
>>> >>>>>>> to discuss this.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> > The "Log in with Github" link doesn't seem
to work yet. Will it
>>> >>>>>>> only allow login for admins and publishers, or for
everyone?
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> Correct, all the oauth stuff requires a real server.
We are
>>> >>>>>>> currently just faking everything.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>> I will add a mock-login page (username/password
that just accepts
>>> >>>>>>> anything and displays whatever username you type
in) so we can
>>> see the
>>> >>>>>>> add-comment field and add-packages page once they
exist.
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>
>>

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