Ah ok great, thanks! I will try upgrading sometime this week then.

Cheers,
Josh

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org> wrote:
Hi Josh!

I think the master has gotten more stable with respect to that. The issue you mentioned should be fixed.

Another big set of changes (the last big batch) is going in in the next days - this time for re-sharding timers (window operator) and other state that is not organized by key.

If you want to be a bit conservative, give it a few days before jumping onto the latest master. If you are brave, give it a shot now ;-)

Greetings,
Stephan


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 5:43 PM, Josh <jofo90@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Stephan,

Thanks, that sounds good!

I'm planning to upgrade to Flink 1.2-SNAPSHOT as soon as possible - I was delaying upgrading due to the issues with restoring operator state you mentioned on my other thread here:

Sorry to jump around but do you know if that's fixed in the latest 1.2-SNAPSHOT? Was it resolved by Flink-4788?

Thanks,
Josh

On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org> wrote:
Hi Josh!

There are two ways to improve the RocksDB / S3 behavior

(1) Use the FullyAsync mode. It stores the data in one file, not in a directory. Since directories are the "eventual consistent" part of S3, this prevents many issues.

(2) Flink 1.2-SNAPSHOT has some additional fixes that circumvent additional S3 issues.

Hope that helps,
Stephan


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Josh <jofo90@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Aljoscha,

Yeah I'm using S3. Is this a known problem when using S3? Do you have any ideas on how to restore my job from this state, or prevent it from happening again?

Thanks,
Josh


On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Aljoscha Krettek <aljoscha@apache.org> wrote:
Hi,
you are using S3 to store the checkpoints, right? It might be that you're running into a problem with S3 "directory listings" not being consistent.

Cheers,
Aljoscha

On Tue, 11 Oct 2016 at 12:40 Josh <jofo90@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

I just have a couple of questions about checkpointing and restoring state from RocksDB.

1) In some cases, I find that it is impossible to restore a job from a checkpoint, due to an exception such as the one pasted below[*]. In this case, it appears that the last checkpoint is somehow corrupt. Does anyone know why this might happen?

2) When the above happens, I have no choice but to cancel the job, as it repeatedly attempts to restart and keeps getting the same exception. Given that no savepoint was taken recently, is it possible for me to restore the job from an older checkpoint (e.g. the second-last checkpoint)?

The version of Flink I'm using Flink-1.1-SNAPSHOT, from mid-June. 

Thanks,
Josh

[*]The exception when restoring state:
java.lang.Exception: Could not restore checkpointed state to operators and functions
at org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.StreamTask.restoreState(StreamTask.java:480)
at org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.StreamTask.invoke(StreamTask.java:219)
at org.apache.flink.runtime.taskmanager.Task.run(Task.java:588)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:745)
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Error while restoring RocksDB state from /mnt/yarn/usercache/hadoop/appcache/application_1476181294189_0001/flink-io-09ad1cb1-8dff-4f9a-9f61-6cae27ee6f1d/d236820a793043bd63360df6f175cae9/StreamFlatMap_9_8/dummy_state/dc5beab1-68fb-48b3-b3d6-272497d15a09/chk-1
at org.apache.flink.contrib.streaming.state.RocksDBStateBackend.restoreFromSemiAsyncSnapshot(RocksDBStateBackend.java:537)
at org.apache.flink.contrib.streaming.state.RocksDBStateBackend.injectKeyValueStateSnapshots(RocksDBStateBackend.java:489)
at org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.AbstractStreamOperator.restoreState(AbstractStreamOperator.java:204)
at org.apache.flink.streaming.api.operators.AbstractUdfStreamOperator.restoreState(AbstractUdfStreamOperator.java:154)
at org.apache.flink.streaming.runtime.tasks.StreamTask.restoreState(StreamTask.java:472)
... 3 more
Caused by: org.rocksdb.RocksDBException: NotFound: Backup not found
at org.rocksdb.BackupEngine.restoreDbFromLatestBackup(Native Method)
at org.rocksdb.BackupEngine.restoreDbFromLatestBackup(BackupEngine.java:177)
at org.apache.flink.contrib.streaming.state.RocksDBStateBackend.restoreFromSemiAsyncSnapshot(RocksDBStateBackend.java:535)
... 7 more