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From "Dawid Wysakowicz (JIRA)" <j...@apache.org>
Subject [jira] [Commented] (FLINK-10815) Rethink the rescale operation, can we do it async
Date Wed, 07 Nov 2018 16:29:00 GMT

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Dawid Wysakowicz commented on FLINK-10815:
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I think the correct way to proceed with such proposal would be to post it on dev mailing list
with [DISCUSS] tag.

> Rethink the rescale operation, can we do it async
> -------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-10815
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-10815
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: ResourceManager, Scheduler
>            Reporter: Shimin Yang
>            Assignee: Shimin Yang
>            Priority: Major
>
> Currently, the rescale operation is to stop the whole job and restart it with different
parrellism. But the rescale operation cost a lot and took lots of time to recover if the state
size is quite big. 
> And a long-time rescale might cause other problems like latency increase and back pressure.
For some circumstances like a streaming computing cloud service, users may be very sensitive
to latency and resource usage. So it would be better to make the rescale a cheaper operation.
> I wonder if we could make it an async operation just like checkpoint. But how to deal
with the keyed state would be a pain in the ass. Currently I just want to make some assumption
to make things simpler. The asnyc rescale operation can only double the parrellism or make
it half.
> In the scale up circumstance, we can copy the state to the newly created worker and change
the partitioner of the upstream. The best timing might be get notified of checkpoint completed.
But we still need to change the partitioner of upstream. So the upstream should buffer the
result or block the computation util the state copy finished. Then make the partitioner to
send differnt elements with the same key to the same downstream operator.
> In the scale down circumstance, we can merge the keyed state of two operators and also
change the partitioner of upstream.



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