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From Ufuk Celebi <...@apache.org>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] FLIP 1 - Flink Improvement Proposal
Date Wed, 06 Jul 2016 14:24:24 GMT
Hey Aljoscha,

thanks for this proposal. I've somehow missed it last week. I like the
idea very much and agree with your assessment about the problems with
the Google Doc approach.

Regarding the process: I'm also in favour of adopting it from Kafka. I
would not expect any problems with this, but we can post a quick note
to their ML.

@Matthias: The name works for me. ;-)

– Ufuk

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 10:19 PM, Matthias J. Sax <mjsax@apache.org> wrote:
> FLIP ?? Really? :D
>
> http://www.maya.tv/en/character/flip
>
> -Matthias
>
>
> On 06/28/2016 06:26 PM, Aljoscha Krettek wrote:
>> I'm proposing to add a formal process for how we deal with (major)
>> improvements to Flink and design docs. This has been mentioned several
>> times recently but we never took any decisive action to actually implement
>> such a process so here we go.
>>
>> Right now, we have Jira issues and we sometimes we have design docs that we
>> keep in Google Docs. Jamie recently added links to those that he could find
>> on the mailing list to the Flink wiki:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/FLINK/Apache+Flink+Home. The
>> problem with these is that a) the comments on the Google Docs are not
>> reflected in Jira and the mailing list. There has been some very active
>> discussion on some of the docs that most people would never notice. The
>> community therefore might seem less active than it actually is. b) the
>> documents are not very discoverable, if we had a clearly defined place
>> where we put them and also prominently link to this on the Flink homepage
>> this would greatly help people that try to find out about current
>> developments.
>>
>> Kafka has a process like this:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/KAFKA/Kafka+Improvement+Proposals.
>> They call it KIP, for Kafka Improvement Proposal. We could either adapt
>> this for Flink or come up with our own process. Doing the former would save
>> us a lot of time and I don't think the Kafka community would mind us
>> copying their process. The subject also hints at this, our process could be
>> called FLIP, for Flink Improvement Proposal.
>>
>> What do you think? Feedback is highly welcome. :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Aljoscha
>>
>

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