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From Kostas Tzoumas <ktzou...@apache.org>
Subject Re: New project website
Date Tue, 12 May 2015 08:33:51 GMT
Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.

Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One thing
we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
points would you like to see in the frontpage?

On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:

> -1
>
> Dear all,
>
> first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>
> However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
> documentation than a front page.
>
> I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find what
> it is about quickly in a concise way?
> I believe that the landing page should give  information about features in
> a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
> before going into details.
>
> I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
> new design. To me the new design looks like
> a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not like
> the starting page of the project.
>
> Best,
> Volker
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag von
> Stephan Ewen
> Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
> An: dev@flink.apache.org
> Betreff: Re: New project website
>
> I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy hipster"
> website.
>
> The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to pack
> too much content into a small space.
> For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it may
> help to space things out a bit...
>
> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twalthr@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> > information targeted to the user group.
> >
> > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
> >
> >
> > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> >
> >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like a
> >> documentation.
> >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running it
> >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
> >>
> >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
> >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
> >> vertical separator between the getting started and the blog/community
> section.
> >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
> >> <neutatz@googlemail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Hi Ufuk,
> >>>
> >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
> >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
> >>> than a starting page.
> >>>
> >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since you
> >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
> >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
> or/and wiki).
> >>>
> >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure that
> >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
> >>>
> >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
> >>> starting pages.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Felix
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckoner42@gmail.com>:
> >>>
> >>>  Great!
> >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
> >>>> Queries", I
> >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Otherwise, +1
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
> >>>>> <mxm@apache.org>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd suggest
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> merge
> >>>>
> >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the remaining
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> issues
> >>>
> >>>> and
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
> >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I recommend
> >>>>>> framing
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> on
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> the home page.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uce@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hey all,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple of days
and
> >>>>>>>> would
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> like
> >>>>
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> share the preview:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push incremental
> >>>>>>>> updates
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>
> >>>>> any
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement over
the
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> current
> >>>>
> >>>>> status
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update the
website
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> today.
> >>>
> >>>> – Ufuk
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >
>

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