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From Alexander Alexandrov <alexander.s.alexand...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: New project website
Date Tue, 12 May 2015 10:11:17 GMT
PS. Is there a particular reason why the APIs are stacked above each other
in the picture (ML on top of Gelly on top of the Table API)? I was actually
picturing the three next to each other...

2015-05-12 12:08 GMT+02:00 Alexander Alexandrov <
alexander.s.alexandrov@gmail.com>:

> I suggest to change the layout of the bottom half in the following way
> (will solve  the alignment issue):
>
> - 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for *Getting Started*, 1st column with the
> text and the download button, second column with the maven code snippets
> - 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for the *Recent Blog Posts *and *Community*
> below the *Getting Started* row. The first column should contain the
> latest blog posts, the second the community content
>
> In addition, I think the top row text to be slightly revised. Flink offers
> a unified runtime and APIs for both batch + streaming, but at the moment
> the tagline suggests it is streaming only.
>
> Regards,
> Alexander
>
>
> 2015-05-12 10:55 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org>:
>
>> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>>
>>  - Having a more prominent tag line
>>  - Add some pictures for features back
>>  - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>>
>> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
>> in the starting page.
>>
>> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
>> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzoumas@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
>> >
>> > Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One
>> thing
>> > we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
>> > points would you like to see in the frontpage?
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
>> > volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > > -1
>> > >
>> > > Dear all,
>> > >
>> > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
>> > >
>> > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
>> > > documentation than a front page.
>> > >
>> > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find
>> what
>> > > it is about quickly in a concise way?
>> > > I believe that the landing page should give  information about
>> features
>> > in
>> > > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
>> > > before going into details.
>> > >
>> > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than
>> the
>> > > new design. To me the new design looks like
>> > > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not
>> like
>> > > the starting page of the project.
>> > >
>> > > Best,
>> > > Volker
>> > >
>> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> > > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag
>> von
>> > > Stephan Ewen
>> > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
>> > > An: dev@flink.apache.org
>> > > Betreff: Re: New project website
>> > >
>> > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy
>> hipster"
>> > > website.
>> > >
>> > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to
>> pack
>> > > too much content into a small space.
>> > > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it
>> may
>> > > help to space things out a bit...
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twalthr@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
>> > > > information targeted to the user group.
>> > > >
>> > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
>> > > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like
a
>> > > >> documentation.
>> > > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running
>> it
>> > > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
>> > > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
>> > > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center
the
>> > > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the
>> blog/community
>> > > section.
>> > > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
>> > > >>
>> > > >>
>> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
>> > > >> <neutatz@googlemail.com>
>> > > >> wrote:
>> > > >>
>> > > >>  Hi Ufuk,
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But
in my
>> > > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
>> > > >>> than a starting page.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since
you
>> > > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So
if you
>> > > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
>> > > or/and wiki).
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure
>> that
>> > > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
>> > > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea
about
>> > > >>> starting pages.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> Best regards,
>> > > >>> Felix
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckoner42@gmail.com>:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>  Great!
>> > > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>  I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
>> > > >>>> Queries", I
>> > > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
>> > > >>>>> <mxm@apache.org>
>> > > >>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>  +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website.
I'd suggest
>> > > >>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> merge
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix
the remaining
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>> issues
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> and
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
>> > > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>  If there is an active twitter entity for Flink,
I recommend
>> > > >>>>>> framing
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> that
>> > > >>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> on
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> the home page.
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi
<uce@apache.org>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> Hey all,
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last
couple of days and
>> > > >>>>>>>> would
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> like
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> to
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> share the preview:
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can
push incremental
>> > > >>>>>>>> updates
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> at
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> any
>> > > >>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement
over the
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> current
>> > > >>>>
>> > > >>>>> status
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and
update the website
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>> today.
>> > > >>>
>> > > >>>> – Ufuk
>> > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > >>>>>>>
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
>

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