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From Alexander Alexandrov <alexander.s.alexand...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: New project website
Date Tue, 12 May 2015 10:08:40 GMT
I suggest to change the layout of the bottom half in the following way
(will solve  the alignment issue):

- 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for *Getting Started*, 1st column with the
text and the download button, second column with the maven code snippets
- 2 column layout in 1:1 ratio for the *Recent Blog Posts *and *Community*
below the *Getting Started* row. The first column should contain the latest
blog posts, the second the community content

In addition, I think the top row text to be slightly revised. Flink offers
a unified runtime and APIs for both batch + streaming, but at the moment
the tagline suggests it is streaming only.

Regards,
Alexander


2015-05-12 10:55 GMT+02:00 Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org>:

> I think starting with Ufuk's draft, de-cluttering it is a good start.
>
>  - Having a more prominent tag line
>  - Add some pictures for features back
>  - align the content as per Felix' suggestion
>
> That should give us a faster quick overview, but keep some serious content
> in the starting page.
>
> I especially like that we have the stack figure and the recent blog posts
> on the new website - that we should keep no matter what.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Kostas Tzoumas <ktzoumas@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Good points raised by Stephan, Felix, and Volker.
> >
> > Do you think we can achieve this by iterating on the new design? One
> thing
> > we can indeed do is de-clutter a bit. Apart from that, what high level
> > points would you like to see in the frontpage?
> >
> > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 6:16 AM, Markl, Volker, Prof. Dr. <
> > volker.markl@tu-berlin.de> wrote:
> >
> > > -1
> > >
> > > Dear all,
> > >
> > > first and foremost, thanks to Ufuk, for the new design.
> > >
> > > However, I agree with Felix that the current page is more of a
> > > documentation than a front page.
> > >
> > > I wonder where would people who do not know about Flink already find
> what
> > > it is about quickly in a concise way?
> > > I believe that the landing page should give  information about features
> > in
> > > a "declarative way" (what, not how ;-) )
> > > before going into details.
> > >
> > > I also believe that the current page does a better job on this than the
> > > new design. To me the new design looks like
> > > a perfect architecture page and intro to the documentation, but not
> like
> > > the starting page of the project.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Volker
> > >
> > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > > Von: ewenstephan@gmail.com [mailto:ewenstephan@gmail.com] Im Auftrag
> von
> > > Stephan Ewen
> > > Gesendet: Montag, 11. Mai 2015 22:01
> > > An: dev@flink.apache.org
> > > Betreff: Re: New project website
> > >
> > > I agree that we should have a "more serious content, less happy
> hipster"
> > > website.
> > >
> > > The current one is very nice, but I also think it has a tendency to
> pack
> > > too much content into a small space.
> > > For me (and probably other old people with less-than-sharp eyes), it
> may
> > > help to space things out a bit...
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Timo Walther <twalthr@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I completely agree with Robert. Less marketing, more technical
> > > > information targeted to the user group.
> > > >
> > > > I think the diagram could be a little bit larger and the blog post
> > > > smaller, so that the lines meet in the middle ;)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 11.05.2015 14:39, Robert Metzger wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I think its fine when the front page looks a little bit more like
a
> > > >> documentation.
> > > >> Flink is no fancy hipster app, our users are either sysops running
> it
> > > >> on a cluster or developers programming against APIs.
> > > >> I think the new website will convince this target audience.
> > > >>
> > > >> I agree with you that aligning the vertical separators might help
> > > >> visual structure of the page. I think we "only" need to center the
> > > >> vertical separator between the getting started and the
> blog/community
> > > section.
> > > >> The positioning of the first line is fine, in my opinion....
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Felix Neutatz
> > > >> <neutatz@googlemail.com>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>  Hi Ufuk,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I really like the idea of redesigning the start page. But in my
> > > >>> opinion your page design looks more like a documentation webpage
> > > >>> than a starting page.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> In my personal opinion I like the current design better, since
you
> > > >>> get a really quick overview with many fancy pictures. (So if you
> > > >>> wanna dive in deep, you can check out things in the documentation
> > > or/and wiki).
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Moreover I have some design issue. Can you align the structure
that
> > > >>> there aren't as many overlaps. Here you can see what I mean:
> > > >>> http://postimg.org/image/paogu6f3h/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> This is only my personal opinion, maybe I have a wrong idea about
> > > >>> starting pages.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Best regards,
> > > >>> Felix
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> 2015-05-11 14:06 GMT+02:00 Hermann Gábor <reckoner42@gmail.com>:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>  Great!
> > > >>>> It looks way better than the current site :)
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:28 PM Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>  I think we may have to remove the term "Language Integrated
> > > >>>> Queries", I
> > > >>>>> think that is trademarked by Microsoft.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Otherwise, +1
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Maximilian Michels
> > > >>>>> <mxm@apache.org>
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>  +1 very nice comprehensive overhaul of the website. I'd
suggest
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> merge
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> this as soon as possible. We can incrementally fix the
remaining
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> issues
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> and
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> add a twitter feed to the front page.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Ted Dunning
> > > >>>>>> <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>  If there is an active twitter entity for Flink, I
recommend
> > > >>>>>> framing
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> that
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> on
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> the home page.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Ufuk Celebi <uce@apache.org>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Hey all,
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I reworked the project website the last couple
of days and
> > > >>>>>>>> would
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> like
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> to
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> share the preview:
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> http://uce.github.io/flink-web/
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> I would like to get this in asap. We can push
incremental
> > > >>>>>>>> updates
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> at
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> any
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> time, but I think this version is a big improvement
over the
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> current
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> status
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>> quo. If I get some +1s I'll go ahead and update
the website
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> today.
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> – Ufuk
> > > >>>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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