Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-flink-dev-archive@www.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-flink-dev-archive@www.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 997E217C59 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:23:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 89494 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2015 18:23:52 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-flink-dev-archive@flink.apache.org Received: (qmail 89437 invoked by uid 500); 23 Mar 2015 18:23:52 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flink.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flink.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flink.apache.org Received: (qmail 89426 invoked by uid 99); 23 Mar 2015 18:23:52 -0000 Received: from mail-relay.apache.org (HELO mail-relay.apache.org) (140.211.11.15) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:23:52 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com (mail-wi0-f179.google.com [209.85.212.179]) by mail-relay.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mail-relay.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id E76CB1A0026 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:23:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wixw10 with SMTP id w10so71362216wix.0 for ; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:23:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.180.74.170 with SMTP id u10mr21486624wiv.46.1427135030725; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:23:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.155.149 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Mar 2015 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Robert Metzger Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:23:30 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Distributed TPC-H DataGenerator for flink-contrib To: dev@flink.apache.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d043c7cec8d93b60511f8c485 --f46d043c7cec8d93b60511f8c485 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've send a message to admin-info@tpc.org and never got an answer. (on http://www.tpc.org/trademarks/ they list admin@tpc.org as the right address, but sending a message to admin@ redirects to admin-info@.) My code doesn't contain any TPC data or code. Its a Java re-implementation of the C data generator. The only thing it does is using the name "TPC". It also tries to generate the same data as the official generator, but we don't claim that. On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Henry Saputra wrote: > Robert, > > Just curious if you did try to send email to tpc.org to ask about fair > usage of example data? > > > - Henry > > On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Robert Metzger > wrote: > > I tried twice writing them but I didn't receive an answer. > > But given that Apache Calcite is also using airlift/tpch in its > > dependencies as well, I would like to add the TPC-H data generator to > > "flink-contrib". > > I would also add a note that TPC is a registered trademark and that our > > generator is not the official generator and may not be used to generate > > test data for performance measurement publications. > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Stephan Ewen wrote: > > > >> I wrote them some time ago (like 12+ months) about the question whethe= r > we > >> can include TPCH sample data for our programs. They replied they were > just > >> revising their license to allow that. > >> > >> Should be possible now. Good idea to ping them again to make sure that > it > >> is approved now and that it holds for code as well... > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Robert Metzger > >> wrote: > >> > >> > Okay, thank you. I'll write a mail to tpc.org and ask which rules we > >> have > >> > to respect. > >> > > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Fabian Hueske > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > +1 for reaching out to the TPC. > >> > > > >> > > It might also be that it is OK to add the code but not under the > name > >> > > TPC-H. > >> > > > >> > > 2015-02-11 13:55 GMT+01:00 Ufuk Celebi : > >> > > > >> > > > Nice, this is a great tool. :) > >> > > > > >> > > > On 09 Feb 2015, at 17:05, Robert Metzger > >> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > However, the website is not really helpful: > >> > > > http://www.tpc.org/trademarks/ > >> > > > > > >> > > > > As one data point, the Apache Calcite (incubating) project als= o > >> > depends > >> > > > on > >> > > > > the mentioned airlift/tpch repository: > >> > > > > > >> > > > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/blob/master/plus/pom.xml#L57 > >> > > > > and > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/blob/master/plus/src/main/jav= a/org/apache/calcite/adapter/tpch/TpchSchema.java#L33 > >> > > > > . > >> > > > > > >> > > > > How about adding a line to the NOTICE files acknowledging that > TPC > >> > is a > >> > > > > registered trademark of the transaction processing council? > >> > > > > >> > > > I find it reasonable to add it to the NOTICE files as an > >> > acknowledgement. > >> > > > > >> > > > The trademark website says "For additional details please contac= t > >> > > > admin@tpc.org." If we want to be on the safe side, we could > write an > >> > > > email and confirm. > >> > > > > >> > > > Any further opinions on this? > >> > > > > >> > > > =E2=80=93 Ufuk > >> > > > >> > > >> > --f46d043c7cec8d93b60511f8c485--