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Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 19:44:33 +0100
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Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Distributed TPC-H DataGenerator for flink-contrib
From: Fabian Hueske <fhueske@gmail.com>
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On Mar 23, 2015 7:39 PM, "Robert Metzger" <rmetzger@apache.org> wrote:

> Great, thanks for taking some time looking at this!
>
> If nobody objects in the next 48 hours, I'll open a PR for the TPC-H data
> generator.
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Henry Saputra <henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I believe it should be ok since we do not actually package any
> > code bits from TPC-H.
> >
> > I think giving trademark nudge to TPC-H in our NOTICE file should be
> good.
> >
> > - Henry
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Robert Metzger <rmetzger@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > I've send a message to admin-info@tpc.org and never got an answer. (o=
n
> > > http://www.tpc.org/trademarks/ they list admin@tpc.org as the right
> > > address, but sending a message to admin@ redirects to admin-info@.)
> > >
> > > My code doesn't contain any TPC data or code. Its a Java
> > re-implementation
> > > of the C data generator. The only thing it does is using the name
> "TPC".
> > It
> > > also tries to generate the same data as the official generator, but w=
e
> > > don't claim that.
> > >
> > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Henry Saputra <
> henry.saputra@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Robert,
> > >>
> > >> Just curious if you did try to send email to tpc.org to ask about
> fair
> > >> usage of example data?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Henry
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 12:07 PM, Robert Metzger <rmetzger@apache.or=
g
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > I tried twice writing them but I didn't receive an answer.
> > >> > But given that Apache Calcite is also using airlift/tpch in its
> > >> > dependencies as well, I would like to add the TPC-H data generator
> to
> > >> > "flink-contrib".
> > >> > I would also add a note that TPC is a registered trademark and tha=
t
> > our
> > >> > generator is not the official generator and may not be used to
> > generate
> > >> > test data for performance measurement publications.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I wrote them some time ago (like 12+ months) about the question
> > whether
> > >> we
> > >> >> can include TPCH sample data for our programs. They replied they
> were
> > >> just
> > >> >> revising their license to allow that.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Should be possible now. Good idea to ping them again to make sure
> > that
> > >> it
> > >> >> is approved now and that it holds for code as well...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:22 PM, Robert Metzger <
> rmetzger@apache.org
> > >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Okay, thank you. I'll write a mail to tpc.org and ask which
> rules
> > we
> > >> >> have
> > >> >> > to respect.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Fabian Hueske <
> fhueske@gmail.com>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > +1 for reaching out to the TPC.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > It might also be that it is OK to add the code but not under
> the
> > >> name
> > >> >> > > TPC-H.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > 2015-02-11 13:55 GMT+01:00 Ufuk Celebi <uce@apache.org>:
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > Nice, this is a great tool. :)
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > On 09 Feb 2015, at 17:05, Robert Metzger <
> rmetzger@apache.org>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > > However, the website is not really helpful:
> > >> >> > > > http://www.tpc.org/trademarks/
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > As one data point, the Apache Calcite (incubating) projec=
t
> > also
> > >> >> > depends
> > >> >> > > > on
> > >> >> > > > > the mentioned airlift/tpch repository:
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/blob/master/plus/pom.xml#L5=
7
> > >> >> > > > > and
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-calcite/blob/master/plus/src/main/jav=
a/org/apache/calcite/adapter/tpch/TpchSchema.java#L33
> > >> >> > > > > .
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > How about adding a line to the NOTICE files acknowledging
> > that
> > >> TPC
> > >> >> > is a
> > >> >> > > > > registered trademark of the transaction processing counci=
l?
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > I find it reasonable to add it to the NOTICE files as an
> > >> >> > acknowledgement.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > The trademark website says "For additional details please
> > contact
> > >> >> > > > admin@tpc.org." If we want to be on the safe side, we could
> > >> write an
> > >> >> > > > email and confirm.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > Any further opinions on this?
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > =E2=80=93 Ufuk
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>

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