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From "Owen O'Malley" <omal...@apache.org>
Subject Re: Question on providing CDH packages
Date Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:01:42 GMT
As a mentor, I agree that vendor specific packages aren't appropriate for
the Apache site. (Disclosure: I work at Hortonworks.) Working with the
vendors to make packages available is great, but they shouldn't be hosted
at Apache.

.. Owen


On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Sean Owen <srowen@gmail.com> wrote:

> I hope not surprisingly, I agree. (Backstory: I am at Cloudera.) I
> have for example lobbied Spark to remove CDH-specific releases and
> build profiles. Not just for this reason, but because it is often
> unnecessary to have vendor-specific builds, and also just increases
> maintenance overhead for the project.
>
> Matei et al say they want to make it as easy as possible to consume
> Spark, and so provide vendor-build-specific artifacts and such here
> and there. To be fair, Spark tries to support a large range of Hadoop
> and YARN versions, and getting the right combination of profiles and
> versions right to recreate a vendor release was kind of hard until
> about Hadoop 2.2 (stable YARN really).
>
> I haven't heard of any formal policy. I would ask whether there are
> similar reasons to produce pre-packaged releases like so?
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Alan Gates <gates@hortonworks.com> wrote:
> > Let me begin by noting that I obviously have a conflict of interest
> since my
> > company is a direct competitor to Cloudera.  But as a mentor and Apache
> > member I believe I need to bring this up.
> >
> > What is the Apache policy towards having a vendor specific package on a
> > download site?  It is strange to me to come to Flink's website and see
> > packages for Flink with CDH (or HDP or MapR or whatever).  We should
> avoid
> > providing vendor specific packages.  It gives the appearance of
> preferring
> > one vendor over another, which Apache does not want to do.
> >
> > I have no problem at all with Cloudera hosting a CDH specific package of
> > Flink, nor with Flink project members working with Cloudera to create
> such a
> > package.  But I do not think they should be hosted at Apache.
> >
> > Alan.
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