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From OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Attention: Alex Harui. Acquire Flash Player
Date Sat, 22 Aug 2015 07:43:46 GMT
Can't we use both?  Why pick one and kill the other one?

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Me.Com <andrei@leapingbytes.net> wrote:

> Flash used to be the only game in town. Now, there is nothing that Flash
> can do which could not be done by JS. Maybe if Adobe open source Flash
> Player… the community can resolve all the security and performance issues
> that Flash is synonymous with… but it will require time… and it still will
> not answer the fundamental question - why bother?  Yes… there are number of
> Flash applications which some company rely on… but no one can argue that
> there are enough of these to justify keeping flash around.  Sorry… if your
> business relies on flash… you will get burn.  Better accept it ASAP and
> develop plan B.
> --
> Me.Com
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> On August 21, 2015 at 19:36:05 , core000 (kaushal.shah05@gmail.com) wrote:
> Alex, let me first say that I commend you and your team on the effort on
> maturing the FlexJS platform. However, from watching the videos from you
> and your team on the overview and progress of Flex JS, the tone sounds one
> of defeat. e.g. "transitioning to Flex JS will not convert all the AS
> code, but atleast you do not have to do everything from scratch in JS".As
> the mention of Flash on the Adobe site gets more rare each time I visit, I
> don't see where Flash plays in Adobe's strategy anymore. Suggestion 1:
> Why not convince Adobe to make the Flash Player open source and hand it
> over
> to Apache? I'm not sure why they would want to hold on to it. I own a tech
> firm in NYC and all of my platforms that I build for my clients are in
> Flex,
> which they are thrilled about. Having to wait for Flex JS to mature and
> semi-learning a new language does not seem the best way forward. Acquiring
> Flash Player will ensure that the plugin consistently is patched (like OSX,
> Windows,IOS, Android) and let us continue to mature our current
> apps.Suggestion 2: From the time in 2011 when Steve Jobs attacked Flash,
> it's been down hill for the Flex platform. Recently, you have Facebook
> asking for the death to Flash. Why would they want something that their
> platform does not even depend on to be decommissioned? And Kevin Lynch,
> the father of Flash from Macromedia, now works at Apple. I sense something
> fishy is going on. Also, my team and I have also researched HTML5/JS.
> Besides a few good libraries like D3.js, I'm not sure what the hype is
> about. Most of the features are not available in all browsers, JS
> libraries pop up and die out, and the look and feel (e.g. jQuery) is
> outdated. It feels like the 90's all over again. We must put effort in
> socializing Flash/Flex benefits again. Perhaps having Flex vs. HTML5 sites
> up to showcase how far ahead of the game Flex is.I'm confident that many in
> the Flex community are concerned that any day Flash Player will be
> decommissioned and that will put most of us (many in huge corporations) in
> a
> bind. Adobe seems to be a company that can buckle under pressure.What are
> your (and the community here) thoughts? Thanks,Core000
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