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From Krüger, Olaf <OKrue...@edscha.com>
Date Mon, 08 Sep 2014 08:51:49 GMT

> BTW Alex, with HTML development there is a lot of mashing together of server side and
client side code
I still using Apache Flex for current projects and love it, but I also try to follow the current
HTML5/JS development intensively.
And I think everyone should recognize that a lot of things are on the move there, exciting
What I'd like to say is that what you've described as HTML ( and PHP) development is a bit
old fashioned and has not so much to do with state-of-the-art web development.
So comparing HTML,JS or whatever with Flex to highlight the pros of Flex we should always
consider the current developments out there.
From my point of view "One-Page-JavaScript-Application" development using HTML5/JS only becomes
more and more reality and will be the future of web development, so Alex is completely on
the right track with FlexJS and focus on "single-url" apps.
It will exciting to see what role PHP will take in future. Perhaps the traditional way of
dividing (web) apps in frontend and backend by using different languages will be obsolete
http://hood.ie/  is one example for the "noBackend movement".


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: jude [mailto:flexcapacitor@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Samstag, 6. September 2014 23:40
An: users@flex.apache.org

For HTML/CSS/JS I would much rather use AS and MXML and use FlexJS to output to HTML than
write in HTML, JS and CSS. In this case, you have the best tooling and support and then can
output that to HTML. I think FlexJS will make a big splash once it matures and web devs see
what it can do.

BTW Alex, with HTML development there is a lot of mashing together of server side and client
side code. One thing to consider is server side and client side multi-language support.

For example, some developers will do something like this:


if ($something) {
<input label="Submit" type="button"></input> <?php } ?>

It can get really messy. So we might want to add support for something

<s:Script runAt="server">
   // some PHP code that updates the URL, fragment or flashvars </s:Script>

and show examples using states. We can discuss this more but I think we should come up with
a set of examples that show how to use FlexJS and MXML / AS to get and send calls rather than
the traditional reload the page model. That was a shift in thinking when I started with Flex.
I've read articles about Twitter and other companies doing things that were breakthrough in
speed and performance that Flex was doing since version 2.
It made me appreciate what we have but also realize these methods are not well known.

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:46 PM, Gary Yang <flashflexpro@gmail.com> wrote:

> yeah, that is because 95% of the use can be accomplished by html5/js,
> of course more people drive toyota like me, but when dealing with high
> value target, you know what to do.
> Same thing, although that 5% is minority, but it's high value target,
> and that's what Flash Flex should be focusing on, and only real
> professionals can do it.
> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 9/4/14 12:05 PM, "Devesh Mishra(NABFS00)"
> > <devesh.dmishra@igate.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Gary, agreed with you.
> > >But somewhere it seems that the rate of development is much higher
> > >in HTML5/JS as compared to MXML/AS.
> > For sure, more people and more money is going into HTML5/JS.  And
> > that's why I'm working on FlexJS.  I am trying to leverage the
> > advantages of
> > and AS and apply them to HTML/JS.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> >

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