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From Alain Ekambi <jazzmatad...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Open source flash player
Date Thu, 07 Nov 2013 21:16:45 GMT
@Adam
We hav had this requirement lots of time and I wrote about it here in the
forum.
We solve this using one single language(good for enterprise scale apps)
without the need of outputing JS from Flex.



2013/11/7 Adam Malejko <adam@malejko.com>

> Carlos,
>
> Let me explain a bit further. The clients have a Flex enterprise app that
> they love already. But they want a customer-facing interface for certain
> small things. So to write something in JavaScript for those parts is a pain
> when a simple output-to-JavaScript from an almost trivial flex app would be
> nice. Heck, having the option to present the user with a JS view if they
> don't have Flash, or the Flash view if they have Flash - would be even
> better!
>
> -Adam
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Carlos Velasco <
> carlos.velasco.blanco@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Adam, the client you're talking about is the right client for
> Javascript...
> > When talking about flex, the scope changes. Flex is intended for
> > medium-high weight enterprise RIA developments and there is where
> > Javascript is a piece of rubbish (dirty and expensive to maintain).
> >
> > It is not a matter of venting, but of trying to separate both kinds of
> > clients as their needs are different and also belong to different
> markets.
> >
> > Instead, there have been lots of movements trying to raise JS out of its
> > "simple-buggy-dirty applications" development scope, which is what makes
> me
> > feel like WTF!!!
> >
> >
> > 2013/11/7 Adam Malejko <adam@malejko.com>
> >
> > > Carlos, I'm not sure if your comment was directed at mine, or if you
> were
> > > just venting a bit, but when I said that I don't personally need it, I
> > > meant it.
> > >
> > > What my clients want a lot of the time is a simple site for customers
> to
> > > sign up, or do something fancy like their backend does, yet get it done
> > > quick and dirty. Fussing with consumers or other enterprises who don't
> > > necessarily have Flash even installed (yes, they exist) isn't something
> > we
> > > like to do. So, we often we will just write something in JavaScript
> that
> > > connects to our backend. I would rather have something somewhat
> connected
> > > to the backend app, written in the same language, but as it is, I can't
> > do
> > > that. Having the option to output a simple app / site in JavaScript is
> > > appealing in that regard. Letting a JavaScript/CSS guy mess with and
> > style
> > > up the output; even more appealing.
> > >
> > > -Adam
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 2:14 AM, Carlos Velasco <
> > > carlos.velasco.blanco@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't really know why people are so entusiast with the idea of
> > porting
> > > > FLEX to a "hell shit" (just my opinion) technology as Javascripy it
> is
> > > just
> > > > like throwing away HD smart TVs and making a party to welcome Black
> and
> > > > White TVs...
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the offtopic, but really tired of viewing so many "Ooooohhh
> > > > Javascript is the future... " staff out there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2013/11/7 Adam Malejko <adam@malejko.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah, Shumway may or may not help; but I'm not holding my breath
on
> > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > What will hopefully help Flex a bunch is the JS output that Alex
is
> > > > working
> > > > > on. Can't wait! I don't personally need it, but I know a lot of
> > clients
> > > > > that do!
> > > > >
> > > > > ... and as soon as my boss lays off a bit, I hope to start at least
> > > > testing
> > > > > it a bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Adam
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 10:56 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > This was discussed on dev@.  Shumway may not help Flex at all.
>  It
> > > > seems
> > > > > > more oriented to the rendering side of Flash, not the user
> > > interaction
> > > > > > side.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 11/6/13 8:11 PM, "Thiago Maia" <a00s@a00s.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >What I understood seens they are trying to build an opensource
> > flash
> > > > > > >player to replace adobe flash player. That would be great
for us
> > > flex
> > > > > > >developpers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ghacks.net/2013/10/02/mozillas-flash-plugin-replacement-shumway
> > > > > > >-lands-firefox-nightly/
> > > > > > >
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