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From Tom Chiverton ...@extravision.com>
Subject Re: Flex ios Indexed list
Date Fri, 09 Aug 2013 08:13:49 GMT
It's the first screen shot on 
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.ev.reports.ReportsMobile&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImFpci5jb20uZXYucmVwb3J0cy5SZXBvcnRzTW9iaWxlIl0.

I try and have a chat about the source today but there's honestly not 
much too it if you do it as a standalone component ...

Tom

On 08/08/2013 12:39, Marcus Fritze wrote:
> Tom,
>
> a working example would be nice, to see what your list already can do.
>
> If it's possible for you that your company is willing to make this component
> open-source, then it would be nice to take a look at the component. ;-)
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
> Am 08.08.2013 um 12:00 schrieb Tom Chiverton <tc@extravision.com>:
>
>> I'm afraid not, at the moment it's only used in our mobile app, and you need an account
with us to use it. I've just noticed our Store listing doesn't show this page too :-)
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 08/08/2013 10:17, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>>> Tom,
>>>
>>> Do you have an example online?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> Am 08.08.2013 um 10:24 schrieb Tom Chiverton <tc@extravision.com>:
>>>
>>>> We didn't implement it as a subclass of list or a new skin or anything that
complicated, just another component that sits along side the list, you tell it the list to
attach to and it scans the dataProvider to make the list of letters, then calls ensureItemIsVisible
on the list when a letter is clicked.
>>>>
>>>> I may be able to get the code contributed if this approach is preferred.
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>>
>>>> On 07/08/2013 22:01, Marcus Fritze wrote:
>>>>> @Maurice
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for the images.
>>>>>
>>>>> @Om
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, thanks. But, at first I have to "understand" how List internally
works and what the best
>>>>> way for creating this new component is.
>>>>> So it will take some time until I have a first "alpha version" of the
indexed list. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> So don't blame me if the new component is not ready next week. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 22:42 schrieb Maurice Amsellem <maurice.amsellem@systar.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Screenshot from MAX 2011 Companion , showing the flex indexed list
running on ipad:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldwbbkpdedka3ja/Photo%2007-08-13%2022%2033%2056.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1cbc458a24j2q1x/Photo%2007-08-13%2022%2034%2020.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>> ________________________________________
>>>>>> De : Marcus Fritze [marcus.fritze@googlemail.com]
>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 21:18
>>>>>> À : users@flex.apache.org
>>>>>> Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I thought someone (maybe Adobe or anybody else) already have
a working indexed list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And is willing to donate this to Flex. So we don't have to invest
our time in developing this
>>>>>> component, when this already exists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think I will take a look how List / ListBase internally works and
I maybe try to developing
>>>>>> such a list. I have to look which component should be extended (List
or ListBase).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course any help is appreciated. ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 19:27 schrieb Adam Malejko <adam@malejko.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Android version is definitely AIR and has the SWF in it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=air.com.adobe.conference.maxcompanion2011&hl=en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It doesn't act like a native Android indexed list, but works
pretty well.
>>>>>>> I'm sure someone on this list could reverse engineer it well
enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Adam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 4:41 AM, Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>> maurice.amsellem@systar.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, This is not really an AIR app, but AIR app converted
to iOS
>>>>>>>> native app.
>>>>>>>> So the .ipa does not include the SWF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought you could install it on your device, but I now
realize this is
>>>>>>>> not possible since it comes from the App-Store.
>>>>>>>> And since it's not on the App store anymore, they is no way
to run it on
>>>>>>>> your device (at least not with legal means ;-)
>>>>>>>> Sorry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> All I can do is send you the screenshots later.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>> De : Marcus Fritze [mailto:marcus.fritze@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 12:18
>>>>>>>> À : users@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>> Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes this seems to be a AIR app.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But I can't find the swf inside the ipa to test the app?
(I can't open the
>>>>>>>> ipa on my device because I didn't loaded the app from the
app-store.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 11:09 schrieb Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>> maurice.amsellem@systar.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is the link to the ipa package:
>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12169005/MAX%202011%201.192.ipa
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The app is free, so I hope this is legal :-)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will upload screenshots later when I get to my iPad.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>> De : Marcus Fritze [mailto:marcus.fritze@googlemail.com]
>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 10:16
>>>>>>>>> À : users@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>> Objet : Re: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First of all thanks to all the feedback to my original
message (which
>>>>>>>> was on the dev list).
>>>>>>>>> To be honest, I don't know which list (dev or users)
is the correct one
>>>>>>>> for discussion this issue.
>>>>>>>>> I thought dev would be the right one, because finally
we develop a new
>>>>>>>> component or an existing component will be donated to Flex.
But anyway,
>>>>>>>> thanks for all the feedback, regardless on which list.
>>>>>>>>> I downloaded the MAX 2011 app. Yes, there is such an
indexed list.
>>>>>>>> Really hard to say if it is Flex or native when you only
see the app on the
>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>>> @Maurice
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please can you send me the screenshots to my e-mail?
Or maybe the MAX
>>>>>>>> Companion MAX 2011 1.192.ipa package?
>>>>>>>>> Am 07.08.2013 um 09:56 schrieb Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>> maurice.amsellem@systar.com>:
>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem
>>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 09:55
>>>>>>>>>> À : users@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Objet : RE: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, I got confused because there are two similar
apps:
>>>>>>>>>> - MAX 2011, made by AJ Software & Multimedia,
which is a native app,
>>>>>>>>>> and still on the App Store (package = MAX 2011 1.0.13*.ipa)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - MAX Companion, made by Adobe, which is an AIR app,
and NOT on the
>>>>>>>>>> app store anymore  (package = MAX 2011 1.192.ipa)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Both have the indexed list  (although one is native
and the other
>>>>>>>> emulated in Flex), but I cannot attach screenshots to this
mailing list to
>>>>>>>> show you.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>> De : Maurice Amsellem [mailto:maurice.amsellem@systar.com]
>>>>>>>>>> Envoyé : mercredi 7 août 2013 09:42
>>>>>>>>>> À : users@flex.apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> Objet : RE: Flex ios Indexed list
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have found a way to know whether an app from the
app store is made
>>>>>>>> with AIR:
>>>>>>>>>> If you unzip the .ipa package (for MAX 2011, it's
one named MAX 2011
>>>>>>>> 1.x.ipa), you will notice a folder named "META-INF" with
the following
>>>>>>>> structure META-INF/
>>>>>>>>>> AIR/
>>>>>>>>>>     Application.xml
>>>>>>>>>>     <content>MaxCompanion2011.swf</content>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's not a 100% proof, but really a good clue that
this was made with
>>>>>>>> AIR.
>>>>>>>>>> Even AIR mobile apps that are compiled to native
code have this
>>>>>>>> structure,  and native apps never have it.
>>>>>>>>>> Try for yourself testing on apps from the App Store
(mostly games), you
>>>>>>>> could be surprised...
>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Message d'origine-----
>>>>>>>>>> De : Swen van Zanten [mailto:flex@hdsign.nl] Envoyé
: mercredi 7 août
>>>>>>>>>> 2013 09:07 À : users@flex.apache.org Objet : Re:
Flex ios Indexed
>>>>>>>>>> list
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This app is made in native code.. This is not an
air app.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SWEN VAN ZANTEN
>>>>>>>>>> Hoofdstraat 160
>>>>>>>>>> 2171 BL, Sassenheim
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Op 7 aug. 2013, om 01:27 heeft Maurice Amsellem <
>>>>>>>> maurice.amsellem@systar.com> het volgende geschreven:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone (Mick Powell <mick.powell@veeops.com>)
asked on the dev list
>>>>>>>> about inclusion of "ios indexed list" for Mobile Flex.
>>>>>>>>>>> I remember a few years ago,  Adobe released a
nice mobile app for MAX
>>>>>>>> 2011, called "Adobe MAX 2011",  written for sure in AIR,
and including a
>>>>>>>> nice implementation of the indexed list.
>>>>>>>>>>> It's still on the app store,  search for "ADOBE
MAX 2011" and look at
>>>>>>>> the screenshots.
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you know, now that Adobe has left Flex, if
they could donate the
>>>>>>>>>>> source code for these list
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or maybe it belongs to another  company  (App
store says editor is AJ
>>>>>>>> Software & Multimedia "http://aj-software.com/").
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Maurice Amsellem
>>>>>>>>>>> SYSTAR R&D - BusinessBridgeFX
>>>>>>>>>>> +33(0)1 49 11 45 62  /  +33(0)6 07 48 95 43
>>>>>>>>>>>
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