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From Alex Harui <aha...@adobe.com>
Subject Re: linux sdk install help?
Date Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:00:07 GMT
Over on the dev@flex.apache.org list, there is tons of activity on removing
Flash as a dependency.

On 1/28/13 12:46 AM, "Michael Montoya" <mmontoya@stockpile.com> wrote:

> As the feedback to the Linux question grows, it highlights for me a glaring
> flaw in the Apache Flex  project; and this is the inherent conflict of
> interest between the stated aims of the open-source community and the
> for-profit model espoused by proprietary technology. While there is nothing
> inherently wrong with either model, I think that when it comes to open-source
> technology, it should be an all-or nothing proposition.
> Adobe has effectively given the open source community the keys to the car but
> kept control of the engine to itself (i.e. the AIR runtime and the Flash
> Player). This means that at Adobe's whim, as the political winds have already
> shown it capable of, it can invalidate all the efforts of the open source
> community in favor of some alternate avenue were the potential returns worth
> the expense of inciting the community's ire. Where profit is concerned, never
> think that the unthinkable won't be done - we have lately seen many such
> poignant pyrotechnic displays of large companies "nuking" each other for
> dominance over the mobile space... (insert name of large publicly traded
> company here).
> As developers, sure we're concerned about earning our paychecks, but if profit
> were our only motive we'd all be investment bankers - no, we want to build new
> tools to make people wonder and delight, to eliminate the drudgery of the old
> way of doing things, to innovate and dream up new ways of overcoming hurdles
> that have no business in the virtual world...
> To this end, I hate obstacles, and I see Adobe's control over the lynch-pin of
> this particular project as a particularly troubling one. I would propose that
> Actionscript and, consequently, Flex, target the JVM (or any other comparable
> open source engine capable of providing the 2D and 3D graphics context and web
> services) and therefore completely sever it's ties to proprietary technology.
> So long as the Apache Flex project is a satellite to proprietary technology I
> can't place much stock in its long term success and I have reservations about
> getting completely behind it.
> If you feel otherwise, I would love to hear your reasoning as to why you feel
> its proprietary ties are not really an obstacle to its success.
> This is truly not an attempt to flame, I've been a Flash/Actionscript user
> since Flash 2 having made a huge investment in Flash technology and I truly
> hope for its continued success as a free, independent venture. My aim is to
> engender a high-level dialogue to ensure that Apache Flex is truly charting
> the best possible course.
> Best,
> Michael Montoya
> Lead Front End Developer
> Stockpile.com
> On Jan 27, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Brad Neufeld <neufeldb4@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> When I have completed my current project, I would be happy to test a linux
>> distribution as well.  It is my preferred environment and I had to setup a
>> virtual machine just to run XP and Flex.  It would be great to get rid of
>> that extra step.
>> I was never clear what the specific technical hurdles were that Adobe was
>> unable to overcome in order to port to Linux, and I hope we do not find out
>> that the problem is much more intractable than one might think.
>> Cheers,
>> Brad

Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.

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