Return-Path: X-Original-To: apmail-incubator-flex-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-users-archive@minotaur.apache.org Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by minotaur.apache.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F264D553 for ; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:27:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 57005 invoked by uid 500); 13 Dec 2012 09:27:49 -0000 Delivered-To: apmail-incubator-flex-users-archive@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 56805 invoked by uid 500); 13 Dec 2012 09:27:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact flex-users-help@incubator.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list flex-users@incubator.apache.org Received: (qmail 56784 invoked by uid 99); 13 Dec 2012 09:27:48 -0000 Received: from athena.apache.org (HELO athena.apache.org) (140.211.11.136) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:27:48 +0000 X-ASF-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=FRT_ADOBE2,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_PASS X-Spam-Check-By: apache.org Received-SPF: pass (athena.apache.org: domain of webdoublefx@hotmail.com designates 65.55.116.27 as permitted sender) Received: from [65.55.116.27] (HELO blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com) (65.55.116.27) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Thu, 13 Dec 2012 09:27:42 +0000 Received: from BLU162-DS8 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 13 Dec 2012 01:27:20 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [82.247.153.175] X-EIP: [z2rtRdzohpwLRGPfdxHScH1qWi9VOHo2] X-Originating-Email: [webdoublefx@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fr=E9d=E9ric_THOMAS?= To: References: <3D263F3272026041925D6902769498300754094B77@IND-MHP1MCL001.mastek.com> <3D263F3272026041925D6902769498300754094C6E@IND-MHP1MCL001.mastek.com> <90F82247-D015-4951-A06B-410D5A0A6F98@hdsign.nl> <3D263F3272026041925D690276949830075410E810@IND-MHP1MCL001.mastek.com> <3D263F3272026041925D690276949830075410E9C2@IND-MHP1MCL001.mastek.com> In-Reply-To: <3D263F3272026041925D690276949830075410E9C2@IND-MHP1MCL001.mastek.com> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 10:27:19 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3505.912 x-mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3505.912 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2012 09:27:20.0894 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D46F5E0:01CDD914] X-Virus-Checked: Checked by ClamAV on apache.org Exactly and it has been a long talk in how we should do it few months ago but nobody really started something. I guess in the futur, as soon as someone will get time and motivation, that's gonna be a subject. - Fred -----Message d'origine----- From: Devesh Mishra Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:15 AM To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Flex Design view removed But still it will not ease our work. Abode won't create DV for FB, that is a decision taken by Adobe. But it doesn't mean that in future, Apache will not release FB with DV. -----Original Message----- From: Fr�d�ric THOMAS [mailto:webdoublefx@hotmail.com] Sent: 13 December 2012 14:22 To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: Flex Design view removed Hi, You are right, guys, it was a really nice tool and I was really desapointed when they decided to remove it, unfortunatly, Adobe won't create another one. What you can do, is to use FB 4.6 to prototype your app and then pick up the generated mxml and use it in FB 4.7 if you really want to use this version. - Fred -----Message d'origine----- From: Devesh Mishra Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:32 AM To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: RE: Flex Design view removed I am agree with Swen. He has given only one example here, but there are so many things which will be difficult now from a developer point of view without DV. -----Original Message----- From: Flex [mailto:flex@hdsign.nl] Sent: 13 December 2012 13:16 To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed Hi, well I have one problem with it. What about drag and drop a services on like say a datagrid or a list. It is easy to type without de designview but it was damn easy with the designview Gegards Swen van zanten Compuniek Bedrijfsautomatisering Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone Op 13 dec. 2012 om 08:48 heeft rafique gilani het volgende geschreven: > Hi, > Design View was always good to have feature and more for immediate > temporary preview ... I doubt developers even used it extensively off > late , non the less if you were dependent on design view for some thing > and you see a no go doing what you where then you can post it here and we > can discuss that .. > > On Dec 13, 2012, at 12:59 PM, Devesh Mishra wrote: > >> So, you want to say that it is not possible to make a generic FB with >> design view that will be supported by all SDK OR FB has been initially >> implemented in that way only ? >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Alex Harui [mailto:aharui@adobe.com] >> Sent: 13 December 2012 12:48 >> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed >> >> >> >> >> On 12/12/12 11:11 PM, "Devesh Mishra" wrote: >> >>> But what is the reason behind to remove the design view ? >> Design View was implemented in a way that tied it to specific SDK >> versions. >> When Flex and FlashBuilder were both developed at Adobe and shipped at >> the >> same time, great pains were taken to make sure Design View worked. It >> was >> not practical for FB to be able to ensure that Design View would work >> with >> future releases of Apache Flex, so it was removed instead. >>> >>> I mean this feature was very essential part of FB. >> It is certainly possible for Apache Flex to try to build a similar >> Eclipse >> plug-in, but so far, nobody has stepped up to try to do it. Certainly, >> there are many disappointed people out there, but so far there hasn't >> been >> enough complaints to motivate anyone to try to replace Design View. >> >> -- >> Alex Harui >> Flex SDK Team >> Adobe Systems, Inc. >> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui >> >> >> MASTEK LTD. >> In the US, we're called MAJESCOMASTEK >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> Opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual and not >> that of Mastek Limited, unless specifically indicated to that effect. >> Mastek Limited does not accept any responsibility or liability for it. >> This e-mail and attachments (if any) transmitted with it are confidential >> and/or privileged and solely for the use of the intended person or entity >> to which it is addressed. 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