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From Om <bigosma...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: Flex Design view removed
Date Sun, 16 Dec 2012 08:21:58 GMT
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On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:44 PM, Joseph Dov Kohan <Jkohan@kramerel.com>wrote:

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> Joseph Dov Kohan
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antonio Guglielmo [mailto:antonioguglielmo@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:00 PM
> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed
>
> hence why my creative cloud never indicated I had to upgrade, now I have
> both, thanks.  All I have to do now is add the SDK's to include a current
> version of air and I am set.
>
> thanks and scout is really awesome too, so much info
>
> Anthony
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
>
> > Oh, and one other note - unlike previous releases of Builder, Fb 4.7
> > and Fb 4.6 can coexist on the same machine, so you'll be able to keep
> > both environments active.
> >
> > On 12/13/12 10:36 AM, "Scott Castle" <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
> >
> > >It's already commercially available :
> > >http://www.adobe.com/products/flash-builder.html
> > >
> > >
> > >On 12/13/12 10:25 AM, "Antonio Guglielmo"
> > ><antonioguglielmo@gmail.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>Scott,
> > >>When is 4.7 going to release non beta?
> > >>Anthony
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>On Dec 13, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Scott Castle <scastle@adobe.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hi folks,
> > >>> I know this list is for Apache Flex development, but as you're all
> > >>>discussing Flash Builder, please permit me a tiny amount of off
> > >>>topic
> > >>>:)
> > >>>
> > >>> As Alex said, we removed DV in order to give Apache Flex the room
> > >>> to develop independently of Adobe.  For those of you who rely on
> > >>> DV, Flash Builder 4.6 is still available (both for trial and for
> purchase).
> > >>>
> > >>> Fb 4.6 download:
> > >>>
> > http://www.adobe.com/support/flex/downloads_updaters.html#flex4_6_tria
> > l
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards,
> > >>> - Scott Castle
> > >>>
> > >>> On 12/13/12 9:14 AM, "Michael Sumner" <msumner@nbs.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I agree with Miguel.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The uses and thoughts are spot on.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>>> From: Miguel Vaz [mailto:pagongski@gmail.com]
> > >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 10:51 AM
> > >>>> To: flex-users@incubator.apache.org; jeffry@dot-com-it.com
> > >>>> Subject: Re: Flex Design view removed
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I second the opinion that the design view is valuable to the IDE.
> > >>>>Being a
> > >>>> seasoned flex developer, this is not an opinion from a newbie.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Advantages of the Design View (DV):
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For newcomers:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - Easy gateway to the flex way of things;
> > >>>> - Invaluable for small projects with a deadline in the near past
> > >>>> (this one applies to both new and experienced devs).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For experienced devs (my personal experience):
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - Easy jumpstart to simple projects;
> > >>>> - Easy jumpstart to not so simple projects - even if it implies
> > >>>>some  cleanup afterwards - we can have a moderately working mockup
> > >>>>up and  running much more easily if we use the DV;
> > >>>> - Facilitates navigation - like someone already mentioned, we
> > >>>>switch to  DV, click on a component, switch back to Code View(CV)
> > >>>>to have the cursor  on the appropriate line;
> > >>>> - I can get halfway coding a project, but somewhere along the
> > >>>>line, i  always use DV for something, from aligment or some other
> > >>>>minor stupidity;
> > >>>> - DV can add some lag (seconds), but i never noticed it being
> > >>>>anywhere  near troublesome or to interfere with work;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Abstract:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> - Again, like someone else said, Design View exists in all major
> > >>>>languages IDEs and, no matter how you look at it, it IS a
> > >>>>marketing  fishhook;
> > >>>> - Hardcore code ninjas surely think DV is obsolete, but its
> > >>>>undeniable  that it has its place and importance on a full fledged
> > >>>>IDE product;
> > >>>> - Adobe keeps making these weird marketing decisions to my
> > >>>>amazement and  is screwing many people's coding lives and love for
> > >>>>flex.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This is merely my personal opinion. And to me is one more small
> > >>>>thing to  add to the slow poisoning of flex. I had other things
to
> > >>>>add, but quite  honestly, i cant remember them right now. :-P
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Miguel Vaz
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Jeffry Houser
> > >>>> <jeffry@dot-com-it.com>wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 12/13/2012 3:32 AM, Devesh Mishra wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I am agree with Swen. He has given only one example here,
but
> > >>>>>>there  are so many things which will be difficult now from
a
> > >>>>>>developer point  of view without DV.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The bulk of developers never use design view.  I know I don't.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I do not expect Adobe to step to fill the void; however if
you
> > >>>>> want Apache Flex to take up the charge, there are two ways:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1) Open a bug / feature request in the Jira bug base and get
a
> > >>>>>lot of  people to vote on it
> > >>>>> 2) Build one yourself--possibly offering to donate that code
to
> > >>>>>Apache  Flex.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The second is more preferable.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Jeffry Houser
> > >>>>> Technical Entrepreneur
> > >>>>> 203-379-0773
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> http://www.flextras.com?c=104
> > >>>>> UI Flex Components: Tested! Supported! Ready!
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> http://www.theflexshow.com
> > >>>>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
> > >>>>> http://www.asktheflexpert.com
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Part of the DotComIt Brain Trust
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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