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From Dahn Maier <d...@maierinc.com>
Subject Re: What is the general perception of Apache Flex and Flash in mid 2012?
Date Wed, 27 Jun 2012 15:34:48 GMT
I think we need to be honest - except for the developers of Flex (who
understand the benefits intimately) the world out there is separated in two
- people who want Flash gone
- people who don't care

As we all know from economics - the crowd sentiment is a powerful driver.

Also I have recently read an article attesting that Flash shaves about 2
hours of battery life on a mac laptop. If there was ever an argument
against Flash this one is it for me.

Let's ask a different question - who else other than the people who know it
will want to use it once HTML + js have caught up? In other words how much
effort does one want to put into it for a 3-5 yrs max survival rate? (not
to mention the dependecy on the FlashPlayer which is a). not open source,
b). going the game route with explicit statements by Adobe that it might
not be backwards compatible with the Flex sdk).

That being said the develop once / deploy all proposition is extremely
powerful. It looks to me like a cross compiler to HTML / javascript is the
most important and viable road to take at the moment.

+= $0.02


On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Brett Adam <bpjadam@gmail.com> wrote:

> IMHO Flex needs to become decoupled from Flash to have continued relevance
> and an opportunity to grow.
> I'm currently at Velocity in Santa Clara and have heard repeated derisive
> laughter from large audiences of IT operations folk whenever Flash has been
> mentioned by a presenter.
> To me this drives home an important point: it's not just the browser
> providers and device vendors that dislike Flash: it's the guys that run the
> severs as well.  Opposition on two fronts.
> As a Flex developer, the prospect of using cobbled together toolkits to do
> JavaScript dev leaves me feeling like my fingers have been cut off.
> The main reasons are ActionScript3 vs JavaScript and the consistency and
> breadth of the Flex framework vs the patchwork of JavaScript components and
> tooling.
> Neither of which should be coupled to Flash IMHO
> Oh how I wish AS3 were available in a plain browser.
> $0.02
> Brett
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Jun 27, 2012, at 7:58, Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com> wrote:
> > On 6/27/2012 10:24 AM, Desai, Ashish S wrote:
> >> I think there is a lack of trust among big enterprises investing in
> Flex, on the survival story of Flash/Flex. While it is true that for large
> complex projects Action Script and Flex are the best platforms, the future
> of Flash/Flex lies in major OS vendors providing support for the Flash
> Player Runtime.
> >  Or the future of Flex could like in decoupling the Flex Framework from
> the Adobe runtimes of Flash Player and AIR.
> >
> >> There has to be a road-map to get off Flex and build in other
> technologies and frameworks to mitigate the risk of the unknown future of
> flex.
> >
> > Apache doesn't really work on the "Roadmap" route.  The Flex project is
> "Staffed" with a bunch of volunteers with differing commitments and
> priorities.  That is different from a formal product from a public
> corporation.  For all intents and purposes. we do want we want.
> >
> >> I think the first line of defense would be for Apache Flex to get into
> dialog with Apple, Google, and Microsoft on the support of Flash Player
> Plugins and Runtimes.
> > And how can we help you with that?
> >
> >
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Dahn Maier
Maier Inc.

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