Return-Path: X-Original-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Delivered-To: archive-asf-public-internal@cust-asf2.ponee.io Received: from cust-asf.ponee.io (cust-asf.ponee.io [163.172.22.183]) by cust-asf2.ponee.io (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20BC8200CE6 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:21:21 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) id 1F2261609D1; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: archive-asf-public@cust-asf.ponee.io Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by cust-asf.ponee.io (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DA251609CF for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:21:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (qmail 21695 invoked by uid 500); 15 Sep 2017 14:21:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact dev-help@flex.apache.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Post: List-Id: Reply-To: dev@flex.apache.org Delivered-To: mailing list dev@flex.apache.org Received: (qmail 21683 invoked by uid 99); 15 Sep 2017 14:21:17 -0000 Received: from pnap-us-west-generic-nat.apache.org (HELO spamd3-us-west.apache.org) (209.188.14.142) by apache.org (qpsmtpd/0.29) with ESMTP; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:21:17 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spamd3-us-west.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at spamd3-us-west.apache.org) with ESMTP id 7136A184E2A for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:21:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at spamd3-us-west.apache.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.279 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.279 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, T_REMOTE_IMAGE=0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=disabled Authentication-Results: spamd3-us-west.apache.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mx1-lw-eu.apache.org ([10.40.0.8]) by localhost (spamd3-us-west.apache.org [10.40.0.10]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TFL5APCflg_m for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wr0-f179.google.com (mail-wr0-f179.google.com [209.85.128.179]) by mx1-lw-eu.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at mx1-lw-eu.apache.org) with ESMTPS id 502915F666 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:21:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wr0-f179.google.com with SMTP id l39so1949813wrl.12 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 07:21:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to; bh=rKtczqlSo/mJGMfztQnR6zDrWUNcPb/5icQ/IZQ4GF4=; b=NdXphnBCEIQ2J+AMLIFpx3fvNLWnFY9chOv4lwahsjLyHuJEjMzZ3quDUWXkHFp2XR CTbAdyEORGsrYOZUeoHhrBcyaX/m2IiODIVJC9isrqzUtUzIoVZeLjKkg+H6O3e6YTFg ybE7YUUUitUVzFUFPQu4XzPAnc28hpEnYv7yHvDbjSEsg8S8PJm82JRpNabBNEuGYNGB 12IvOWRAMjGRuhBf1rgjfRnGibxCmjzb9jc2xIJ2zcd+Oa+tkZ3dZ5DOuzYR8idiEc+F PUzSojlPS37DoNfw2DaSjTWiNhCySCHWH7f5xV7e1VxtSpBdq1jEb4jSyy+ECbKEZZOJ pnNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rKtczqlSo/mJGMfztQnR6zDrWUNcPb/5icQ/IZQ4GF4=; b=nDZYO16OhQt3QlxrZ/F61TTBoxO6j27MfA+eZVrN/evenRL3lKT2xlAPX/GnM0R4my t+/Fo/VCKkUTRRoAPJmsA7p8HOuHXX6lsOCloRZ3jsx8nL3VDseKzrhnY8Bm9OSV78JX SiUaRkuhyrGlfQMqaTVsnb43A6jCFkJCXF6HvZu1NW7Pt9iBZiRyfFHViHZCdlLCdYJ2 fTVC4Z0AcS3GUx2DQqivPrTzWDsIGVrvDQj/GXa05Ev6IxJ2UTUoJS2YYy9TAwMN/j3b QU+2qeFIBXvEXcBGdWXK2YE2Wrokg2205ESY7SCMJJ8od8BSfrSdOZ8mg4XZKwpT10Jo YXyw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhAUWd3sT24UWrw4ET1nMDBQYvGFsZ1HeTxuJrU7l/fBjTWIP8g bYrdtxSpgQPGAIZgXkLliehVh4MGXfdX1Qk+XLFvzw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb6mrvWEaxEFoyFF/z324z01aAXd7z92kkOsx3bhAxy4zd171q2P2Ag0AAWMsQ5wvoo+tAKt7+2zr9lsauPT9aY= X-Received: by 10.223.139.212 with SMTP id w20mr21343541wra.275.1505485267804; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 07:21:07 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: carlos.rovira@gmail.com Received: by 10.223.156.25 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 07:20:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Carlos Rovira Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 16:20:46 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: vz2FWygl4aN9MXGaYxbS9MxemEQ Message-ID: Subject: Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork To: "dev@flex.apache.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045e9d409a48ce05593b1a8a" archived-at: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 14:21:21 -0000 --f403045e9d409a48ce05593b1a8a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm with Om and others that one of the results we pursue with this renaming is to avoid the "Flex" name. We talked about the problems we have today with clients when "Flex" is put in a discussion. You pay in terms of credibility to your client. For migration : As a customer, I don't think migration is a real option. FlexJS impose a very different code so almost all must be rewritten. You only can think in maintain your languages (AS3/MXML) and environments (FB, IDEA,...), so for me there's no much room there to discuss. I must say that nowadays people like us considering to migrate would consider other actual techs like Angular or React since the cost is similar and they get the popular framework in 2017. I see this renaming as a way to rebrand all our project and present it to the world with new visuals and marketing. And try to compete in the same terms they do. Same kind of name, same kind of website, and so on... About Alex proposal to make different packages I think it could work, but for me that would be a plan after rename, rebranding and website creation. We can have it in mind for next steps after that. For me we need the same top name for product and project, and then we can release a package for people wanting to migrate called "apache XXX FlexJS" or something. But consider that to make that real we will need people interested in make such package and work for it. And consider how many people will be planing to migrate from Flex and will find that FlexJS is completely different and they can do it easily. @Piotr, my plans will be to work (if people wants me on that) on: website, logo design.... for me the motivation to work in that things is to get a name that will make me think we can reach our goals, since if I don't believe in a name will be complicated to give us a good work. Far beyond that I always want to put work on the visuals of a component design, I think we need that as we need the website and new name. 2017-09-15 13:17 GMT+02:00 Kessler CTR Mark J : > I wanted to throw in a couple words / names to see if they "spark" > anything. > > > Arise > Dawn > Raise / Rise > > Dimension > Facet > Morph > Poly > Strand > > Derive > Drive > Quest > Journey > > Fortune > Prospect > Trend > > > -Mark K > > --=20 Carlos Rovira Director General M: +34 607 22 60 05 http://www.codeoscopic.com http://www.avant2.es Conocenos en 1 minuto! Este mensaje se dirige exclusivamente a su destinatario y puede contener informaci=C3=B3n privilegiada o confidencial. Si ha recibido este mensaje p= or error, le rogamos que nos lo comunique inmediatamente por esta misma v=C3= =ADa y proceda a su destrucci=C3=B3n. De la vigente Ley Org=C3=A1nica de Protecci=C3=B3n de Datos (15/1999), le c= omunicamos que sus datos forman parte de un fichero cuyo responsable es CODEOSCOPIC S.A. 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