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From OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosma...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Building the brand for Royale
Date Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:36:51 GMT
I would stay away from WordPress just because of all the security issues
and maintenance required.

Github pages should be a better place.

Thanks,
Om

On Sep 20, 2017 10:26 AM, "Alex Harui" <aharui@adobe.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hmm.
>
> I think if we grab a domain and donate it to the ASF, that it can't be
> hosted on non-ASF hardware.  That would need to be verified.
> Maybe it would be better for the Royale PMC to approve Royale.xx as a
> third-party domain under Carlos's control.  I think that's allowed.  The
> policy [1] says that "in general" it is NOT allowed, but "in general"
> implies it isn't a hard and fast rule.
>
> IMO, things under the PMC's control have certain obligations.  It has to
> be sustainable by "anyone".  How many folks know how to edit WordPress
> themes?  I don't.  I always choose one of their default themes.  It might
> have to be hosted or host-able by Apache Infra, and I don't know if they
> are ok with WordPress.
>
> Personally, I want to be able to stick FlexJS apps in our web presence.
> Honestly, I'd actually like to see our entire web presence be built in
> FlexJS.  It would truly be "eating our own dog food".  Yes, I know that
> mostly static pages aren't a great match for FlexJS/Royale, but in the
> end, shouldn't all of our web presence be dynamic?
>
> My 2 cents,
> -Alex
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/domains.html
>
> On 9/20/17, 10:02 AM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi Alex,
> >
> >that's my bet. To make a good website I proposed to make it in Wordpress
> >since is what I have some expertise in that field (If I'm the person in
> >charge to make it happen). All the team can as well have an account in the
> >WP dash board to be able to post and share content in a easy way.
> >
> >WP will gave as the landing and some pages that would be useful for
> >convenience. But I think, as well, to link directly to the resources in
> >the
> >apache infrastructure in the main menu of the site just as we do now
> >(code,
> >GitHub, wiki, links to our mailing lists, releases, binaries, and so on)
> >
> >For domain registration I'd prefer .io since is very popular today, but
> >.as
> >seems ok for me as well.
> >I think Erik proposed to register the domain for us, so I think is ok for
> >me that he makes the registration. Maybe we could do it as soon as the
> >board approve the new TLP and name.
> >
> >I can host the site in CO servers with the rest of our websites, to
> >support
> >as well this change and initiative. Again I'll be waiting for board
> >approval to start working. I'm assuming here that you guys trust me to
> >make
> >this website and branding work, of course.
> >
> >So maybe we could make a thread to select from Royale.io and Royale.as,
> >and
> >of course if price for .io is very high we could go with .as if it's more
> >low.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >2017-09-20 18:44 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com.invalid>:
> >
> >> Hi Carlos,
> >>
> >> We can go grab some royale.<xxx> domains.  Apache will have some rules
> >> about what can go on them.  At the worst it will have to be a straight
> >> redirect to royale.apache.org, but I think we might be able to have at
> >> least a landing page.  I think the goal is that Apache wants strong
> >> association with a project's web presence.  Even on a royale.foo landing
> >> page, the first mention of Royale probably has to be "Apache Royale".
> >>
> >> But also, I am hopeful we will be using GitBox and thus GitHub will be
> >>our
> >> hub of activity.  And I think we should use GitHub pages and build a
> >>solid
> >> web presence there, again within Apache's rules.
> >>
> >> Royale.io is for sale.  We could ask what the price is.
> >> Royale.as appears to be unregistered.
> >>
> >> My 2 cents,
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 9/20/17, 8:31 AM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos
> >>Rovira"
> >> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >as Alex and Dave said, we should wait for board approval.
> >> >
> >> >@Harbs, I was using "xxx" to refer to "whatever domain extension out
> >>there
> >> >that would fit for us" ;)
> >> >
> >> >@Dave, I understand that we should use the apache domain for the
> >>service
> >> >apache provide (i.e: store code, mailing list, releases...), but as
> >>many
> >> >other projects out there, I suppose we should as well have an external
> >> >tools or domains that serve our purpose. In the same way we have  some
> >> >external servers or tools actually.
> >> >For example, we could have a cool name domain that points to a website
> >>and
> >> >there refer to the apache resources. If that option should go against
> >> >apache rules, that would be strange for me, and would certainly be
> >> >hopeless
> >> >to work in and organization with such limitations.
> >> >
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >2017-09-20 16:44 GMT+02:00 Tomislav Pokrajcic <tomislav@svemir.net>:
> >> >
> >> >> Guys, congrats for selecting the new project name.
> >> >> Still not sure how Royale resonates with me, but like it much more
> >>than
> >> >> the 1st runner up.
> >> >> Non English speakers would pretty often confuse beads with beds and
> >>job
> >> >> ads might sound strange.
> >> >> Just imagine:
> >> >> "Looking for an amazing Beads expert to join our team."
> >> >> :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 20.9.2017. 15:45, Dave Fisher wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> As an Apache project the domain would be:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Royale.apache.org
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I can write a long discussion about policy later but there are
> >>reasons,
> >> >>> requirements, approvals around use of other domains.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I know everyone is enthusiastic but let's get approved by the board
> >> >>>first.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regards,
> >> >>> Dave
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sep 20, 2017, at 6:33 AM, Erik de Bruin <erik@ixsoftware.nl>
> >>wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> * Domain: We must find a good and simple domain for Royale. I think
> >>if
> >> >>>we
> >> >>>>> can find something short like "royale.XXX" would be great
over
> >> >>>>> "apacheroyale.XXX".
> >> >>>>>
> >> >>>>> .com, .org, .net, .io etc. all seem to be either in use
or
> >>squatted
> >> >>>> upon.
> >> >>>> Am I forgetting memorable TLP extensions? I assume we don't
want
> >> >>>>anything
> >> >>>> like 'royale.foundation' or any fancy extensions like that,
right?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Are we considering extended names, like 'royaleframework' as
well?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> I can register anything we decide and sponsor until a foundation
> >>takes
> >> >>>> over
> >> >>>> and then transfer the domain.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Thanks,
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> EdB
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> --
> >> >>>> Ix Multimedia Software
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Jan Luykenstraat 27
> >> >>>> 3521 VB Utrecht
> >> >>>>
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