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From Jeffry Houser <jef...@dot-com-it.com>
Subject Re: [DISCUSS] Name of the FlexJS Fork
Date Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:00:23 GMT

  My personal opinion is that an AS Moniker will turn off a lot more 
people than a JS Moniker.

  I Am not a lawyer, but I suspect that if someone had a trademark on 
Royale related to software, that RoyaleAS still may be considered 
infringing.


On 9/14/2017 1:01 AM, Piotr Zarzycki wrote:
> Don't you think guys that is too much references, regarding what Alex found?
>
> We are writing in AS - what about emphasis this to RoyaleAS?
>
> I'm still not sure yet whether name change convince me..
>
> Piotr
>
> On Thu, Sep 14, 2017, 03:35 Jeffry Houser <jeffry@dot-com-it.com> wrote:
>
>> Wasn't Royale the beta name for some version of Flex?  [Flex 2? or was
>> it Flex 1?]
>>
>>
>> On 9/13/2017 6:30 PM, Dave Fisher wrote:
>>> Hi -
>>>
>>> I did a quick suitable name search.
>>>
>>> Royale might be taken by this individual’s project
>>> https://github.com/ian-culleton/royale
>>>
>>> Otherwise Royale in a TESS search is liquor and beauty products mostly.
>>> There is a lot of “Clash Royale"
>>>
>>> And there is also “Royale with Cheese” - a reference in Pulp Fiction
>>> to what a Macdonald’s Quarter Pounder is called in Paris.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
>>>> <mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi -
>>>>
>>>> We have one alternative name - Royale
>>>>
>>>> Are there others that people would like to propose?
>>>>
>>>> If not then we can have a simple VOTE between FlexJS and Royale.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 3:01 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
>>>>> <mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Om,
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that dilutes the votes and biases the result towards FlexJS.
>>>>> If we want to go that way then we need a preference ranking and more
>>>>> complicated VOTE counting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 2:57 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala
>>>>>> <bigosmallm@gmail.com <mailto:bigosmallm@gmail.com>>
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We could always structure the VOTE like this:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.  Royale
>>>>>> 2.  XXX
>>>>>> 3.  YYY
>>>>>> 4.  FlexJS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One vote should answer both questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Om
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>> <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com <mailto:piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other hand, we have rather majority of voices for do not
>>>>>>> change the
>>>>>>> name and Alex is right. - I'm seeing more people asking for help
with
>>>>>>> porting. - We may disappear in the sea of frameworks with changed
>>>>>>> name...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe better have solid framework and invest in current name
still
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>> nice branding. I'm puzzled, so definitely I will give myself
at
>>>>>>> least one
>>>>>>> day more before VOTE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-09-13 23:31 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>> <piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com <mailto:piotrzarzycki21@gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 for Dave's proposition on starting the VOTE for name change.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to also add that Carlos's proposition for help
to
>>>>>>>> build new
>>>>>>>> brand triggers me. Peter helped also do understand that we
can
>> always
>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>>> from where we have come and what was our story.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm going to change my mind on name changing and pickup "Royale"
>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>>> most powerful for the new one. - The main question is can
we use
>>>>>>>> it since
>>>>>>>> it was code name of Macromedia Framework ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Piotr
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-09-13 22:59 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <dave2wave@comcast.net
>>>>>>>> <mailto:dave2wave@comcast.net>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi -
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 1:40 PM, Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:harbs.lists@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos’ argument carries weight to me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If a new name will help motivate him in terms of
marketing it,
>>>>>>>>>> that’s
>>>>>>>>> value I can recognize.
>>>>>>>>>> The name is not as important to me as motivating
people to be
>>>>>>>>>> involved
>>>>>>>>> in the project. We can build whatever messages we want
around
>>>>>>>>> the name.
>>>>>>>>>> Carlos clearly feels more passionate about his position
than I do
>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> mine.
>>>>>>>>>> A hesitation I have about picking a new name is that
I don’t
>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>> delay the board’s decision on the new PMC. If we go
for a new
>>>>>>>>> name can
>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> try and pick one quickly?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Let's start the FlexJS yes or no vote tonight or tomorrow
morning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In parallel we can discuss other names if a new name
is the
>>>>>>>>> result then
>>>>>>>>> we can immediately start the next vote. We have just
enough time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Harbs
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 13, 2017, at 9:20 PM, Carlos Rovira <
>>>>>>>>> carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm putting some efforts here since I think this
is really
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> all of us and for our beloved FlexJS project.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Name, website and all the visuals behind it matters....and
is
>>>>>>>>> important in
>>>>>>>>>>> a way many of us in this community maybe can't
imagine. If we
>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>> get a
>>>>>>>>>>> fresh and compelling name and a clean and beautiful
site where we
>>>>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>>>>>> all the great things our technology can do, we
are losing our
>>>>>>>>>>> time,
>>>>>>>>> since
>>>>>>>>>>> this project will end with the bulk of the others
xxxJS
>>>>>>>>>>> projects, and
>>>>>>>>>>> that's even horrible when our tech could be used
for things other
>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> JS!!
>>>>>>>>>>> (If we want in future years to make it possible).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> @Alex: I Think we can't have a PROJECT name !=
of PRODUCT name
>> for
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557 <+48%20880%20859%20557>
>>>>>>>> skype: zarzycki10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki
>>>>>>>> <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Piotr Zarzycki
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mobile: +48 880 859 557
>>>>>>> skype: zarzycki10
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/piotrzarzycki
>>>>>>> <https://pl.linkedin.com/in/piotr-zarzycki-92a53552>
>>>>>>>
>> --
>> Jeffry Houser
>> Technical Entrepreneur
>> http://www.dot-com-it.com
>> http://www.jeffryhouser.com
>> 203-379-0773
>>
>>

-- 
Jeffry Houser
Technical Entrepreneur
http://www.dot-com-it.com
http://www.jeffryhouser.com
203-379-0773


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