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From: Carlos Rovira <carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2017 12:36:37 +0200
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Subject: Re: Adobe has announced the end-of-life of the Flash Player
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Agree, WebAssembly could be a game changer

About AIR. Adobe AIR is not affected, but we need to wait until they show
us it's own Flash Player Runtime roadmap,

What I expect to see there is they support Flash in AIR and they only wants
to remove Flash from the browser. That would be the best option for us
(inside this bad news)

Hope they pronounce as soon as possible

thanks


2017-07-26 7:57 GMT+02:00 Harbs <harbs.lists@gmail.com>:

> It=E2=80=99s been discussed before, and many of us think it=E2=80=99s an =
interesting
> avenue to explore.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3257d429b573baad48e401e01e4fda
> 5a3ef02557f7640d4c9becd274@%3Cdev.flex.apache.org%3E <
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/3257d429b573baad48e401e01e4fda
> 5a3ef02557f7640d4c9becd274@%3Cdev.flex.apache.org%3E>
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Jul 26, 2017, at 8:40 AM, Chris Velevitch <chris.velevitch@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
> >
> > I think it would be great if the flex compiler could generate wasm (
> > webassembly.org) binary format output (a W3C standard). That way, we
> could
> > benefit from keeping our existing code base and still target the browse=
r
> > and other web targets like electron.
> >
> > On 26 July 2017 at 12:41, Joel Tan <organet.my@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> More info about AIR can be found in these forum:
> >> https://forums.adobe.com/thread/2362234
> >> https://forum.starling-framework.org/topic/air-roadmap-update
> >>
> >> Joel
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 10:23 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >> nicholaskwiatkowski@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The announcements don't specifically call out Adobe AIR -- but readin=
g
> >>> through the lines I'm assuming that AIR will be End of Life'd at the
> same
> >>> time, since it is built on the same runtime as the Flash Player.
> >>>
> >>> Alex, do you know if that is the case?
> >>>
> >>> -Nick
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Sebastian Mohr <smohr.flex@gmail.co=
m
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Carlos,
> >>>>
> >>>> does it mean, Adobe AIR will be taken further, and, only
> >>>> FlashPlayer will be discontinued in 2020? I couldn't find
> >>>> any information on that Flash update site =E2=80=A6
> >>>>
> >>>> https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-flash-update.htm=
l
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Sebastian
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Jul 25, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >>> carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I saw it some hours ago, and I must to say it seems very strange to
> >> me
> >>>> read
> >>>>> this movement. Let me explain:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Although the world has gone "anti-flash" and the technology has ver=
y
> >>> bad
> >>>>> press to many people that doesn't know really about it, I must to s=
ay
> >>>> that
> >>>>> the last months I was very happy with the progress in our company
> >>> making
> >>>> a
> >>>>> mobile version of our main product.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It took only one to two month make it work in Android and iOS
> >> Tablets,
> >>>> and
> >>>>> now we are making some visual changes via media queries to make
> >> tablets
> >>>>> more usable. We plan to release this versions after summer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So this means a very productive and short time to make that version=
s
> >>>> since
> >>>>> all Apache Flex codebase is valid and we are only "tweaking" some
> >>> things
> >>>> to
> >>>>> make web and tablets more usable.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I recently buy the new iPad Pro (10'5") and the performance of the
> >>> Tablet
> >>>>> versions is Awesome. As performant as desktop versions. For us the
> >>>> minimum
> >>>>> version are Tablets from 2014-2015 period.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, I don't know what you think, but for me it's awesome to see our
> >>>> product
> >>>>> perform greatly and be deployable at last in such environments and
> >> with
> >>>>> much less investment that if we go the rewrite route with FlexJS or
> >>> other
> >>>>> technology. I think for new products created from scratch would be
> >>> better
> >>>>> to make it in a newer tech, but for legacy, this way is clearly
> >> better.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So now in 2017, with phones and tablets with great power that can r=
un
> >>>> flash
> >>>>> player (AIR) Apps, I think continue punishing a great tech is
> >> madness,
> >>>> and
> >>>>> making it go EOL is complexly absurd.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I know we can't make anything, since such corporate announcement
> >> can't
> >>> go
> >>>>> backwards, so at least my worries are for:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> a) Could go Flash Player the same route as Apache Flex? instead of
> >> EOL,
> >>>>> donate it? I think have it here inside Apache Flex would be a great
> >>>>> addition and we could control all the aspects of our project. If no=
t
> >>>> we'll
> >>>>> end with Apache Flex 4.16 having the same sort.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> b) I read that Adobe AIR will not be affected and as well Flash
> >> Player
> >>>> and
> >>>>> AS3 inside Adobe AIR, but honestly knowing the way Adobe makes
> >> things,
> >>> I
> >>>>> think that's what the say know, but things could change (as they
> >> should
> >>>> do)
> >>>>> when they want.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What do you think?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Note: one thing aside and a lesson know for 2010 to present is: Avo=
id
> >>> use
> >>>>> *ANYTHING* from Adobe, since you'll end with your investments in th=
e
> >>> bin.
> >>>>> So Golden Rule for me is: "Avoid all Adobe Products".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carlos
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2017-07-25 22:02 GMT+02:00 Nicholas Kwiatkowski <
> >>>>> nicholaskwiatkowski@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Looks like we have a date :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> https://blogs.adobe.com/conversations/2017/07/adobe-
> >> flash-update.html
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -Nick
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>>
> >>>>> <http://www.codeoscopic.com>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Carlos Rovira
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Director General
> >>>>>
> >>>>> M: +34 607 22 60 05
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.codeoscopic.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://www.avant2.es
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> >
> > Chris
> > --
> > Chris Velevitch
> > Manager - Adobe Developers & Designers, Sydney
> > m: 0415 469 095
> >
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