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Subject: Re: Current FlexJS license/notice issues
From: Justin Mclean <justin@classsoftware.com>
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Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 17:44:19 +1000
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archived-at: Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:44:31 -0000

Hi,

>  Are you proposing to get the OpenFL community to accept headers on =
their source
> files by submitting a pull request on their repos and then replicating
> that header under the ASF header in Matrix.as?

No I was going to add a header to make it clear that the code wasn=E2=80=99=
t originally Apache licensed and originally come from somewhere else.

> And are you going to have the build download their LICENSE.md file =
from their
> repo and adjust our LICENSE to point to it?

Yes but only downloading it once and adding a file to our repo. It can =
be found here. [1] I'd only use the MIT bits as the other bits don=E2=80=99=
t apply to what we used.

> Again, we are not consuming an entire artifact or file.

The original code is copyright other people and under a different =
license, as per policy [2] changes to a differently licensed file keeps =
the original license. Even if it was extensively modified (and the bar =
is generally very high for that) it would still be useful to note that =
it was originally owned by someone else and under a different license. =
The guiding principle also applies here, if it bundled and permissive =
then it needs to be mentioned in license. And it=E2=80=99s also =
important that we should abide by the terms of the MIT license and have =
the copyright owner and full text somewhere.

>  Are you proposing to submit a pull request to the Flat UI folks to =
have them put a correct
> MIT license in their repo or README.md?

No. They do however link to MIT [3] on their page so it clear what their =
intent is and what the license text would be.

>  And then adjust our build to download that and point to it from our =
LICENSE?=20

Yes as above.

> I've been unable to find a volunteer to donate the end result to =
CreateJS,
> but I still think that's the best course of action.

By donating the files I assume you mean they will no longer be bundled =
in a release?  If so then there needs to be nothing about them in our =
license file, but if they are still bundled they would need to be =
mentioned.

> when my manager returns in about 3 weeks I will seek permission to =
make the donation so we can avoid
> debating this issue and maybe get some positive attention from the =
CreateJS community.

Adding the header is simple and covers us until that has been sorted =
out. "Worse case" I=E2=80=99ll be happy to remove the header if required =
at a later date. IMO It=E2=80=99s better to have a possible =
documentation issue than a possible licensing error.

> If we do the steps above, what else will need a pointer?  And, if you =
have
> time, what policy document requires pointers?

It=E2=80=99s only in the how to (that I=E2=80=99m aware of), but Ross (+ =
others) has said to use the short form many times. It makes the license =
smaller and easier to understand for anyone looking at. Oddly I can=E2=80=99=
t find legal policy that says the full text must be copied into LICENSE =
either, can you provide a link to that please?

>  AIUI, the how-to is only a how-to and not a policy document and =
certainly allows copied of licenses.

My (+others) understanding is both are allowed but the short form is =
preferred.

So am I good to make all of the above changes?

Thanks,
Justin

1. https://github.com/openfl/openfl/blob/develop/LICENSE.md
2. https://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#3party (see points 3 + =
4)
3. https://opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.html