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From: Carlos Rovira <carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 12:33:42 +0200
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Subject: Re: [FlexJS] Producing distributions with Maven
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Hi Alex,

I think I generate a bit of confussion re-reading what I wrote. I
understand that ANT build continue to be there and maintained. I'm
referring only to maven build, that should not be dependant of ANT hacks
(at least in the end goal). So people could choose to build with ANT or
Maven (and for TI departments of big corps, will choose the later and would
want to be pure maven builds that could live in their CI server processes).

sorry If I sound like ANT was to be erradicated...not at all, but I'd love
to see maven get rid of ANT hacks (if this is possible)

Thanks

Carlos


2016-07-08 7:17 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I didn't understand this at all.  I guess I just don't understand why we
> have to have one way to build things.  It doesn't seem like the Apache Wa=
y
> to say "no, you can't have an Ant build".
>
> I just want to get the Maven stuff to the minimum releasable state,
> release it, get folks to try it, and see what feedback we get and go from
> there.
>
> Thanks,
> -Alex
>
> On 7/7/16, 11:14 AM, "carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of Carlos Rovira"
> <carlos.rovira@gmail.com on behalf of carlos.rovira@codeoscopic.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >I think people of TI enviroments would want a tech like this that rely o=
n
> >maven, but thinking on what people expect to have on his own CI process,
> >we
> >need to be pure maven (without ANT hacks that would make this not valid)=
.
> >So my vote is to rely only on maven, since if not it will defeats the
> >maven
> >main purpose (IMHO).
> >
> >In local dev machines, if they are building software using FlexJS, they
> >will config their poms to download FlexJS transparently and then configu=
re
> >their IDEs, If they work as well on FlexJS, they will build running the
> >poms.
> >
> >Regarding original Chris question. If I understand what he is describing=
,
> >I
> >think will be normal to have some parent project that bundles some part =
of
> >the software and then builds child project. Those kind of problems (egg =
or
> >chicken first) use to be very typical in maven builds, so maybe making
> >some
> >hierarchy of projects that builds first dependant parts could be a good
> >solution...is that way what you are describing?
> >
> >
> >
> >2016-07-07 16:54 GMT+02:00 Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>:
> >
> >> The key thing we need to decide here is whether folks who want to
> >>develop
> >> using IDEs will need to run a Maven or Ant before importing the projec=
ts
> >> into the IDEs and that the IDEs will properly handle regeneration of t=
he
> >> config files.  The IDEs currently use config files checked into the
> >>repo,
> >> instead of generated by the build.
> >>
> >> And we need to decide whether we are going to make such changes before
> >>or
> >> after the 0.7.0 release.
> >>
> >> -Alex
> >>
> >> On 7/7/16, 7:44 AM, "Christofer Dutz" <christofer.dutz@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Hi,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I just added a new module to the flex-asjs module called
> >>"distribution".
> >> >This is a maven module that uses the maven-assembly-plugin to produce
> >> >bundles of software. I am currently trying to make it automatically
> >>build
> >> >installable versions of the SDK [1]. It would be cool if you could
> >>have a
> >> >look at what I'm producing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Currently the Ant build sort of builds the artifacts in-place. It's
> >>sort
> >> >of like living the house while you are building it. Everyone knows - =
or
> >> >can at least imaging - that's not nice ;-)
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I think moving the static parts (like run scripts, config files,
> >> >manifests etc.) to the distribution module would clean up the project=
 a
> >> >lot.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >I think the cleanest option would be to have a completely separate
> >>module
> >> >("flex-flexjs" for example) which does the distribution packaging and
> >>to
> >> >have it depend on flex-falcon and flex-asjs. This would separate
> >> >compiler, framework and distribution, but that's just my oppinion. I
> >>just
> >> >think there's far too much static stuff hanging around in the
> >>directories
> >> >and I have no idea what is used for what or if its obsolete.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Chris
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >[1]
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> https://builds.apache.org/view/E-G/view/Flex/job/flex-asjs%20(maven)/ws/d
> >>i
> >> >stribution/target/
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >--
> >
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> >Director General
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> >http://www.codeoscopic.com
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