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From: OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 11:17:11 -0700
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Subject: Re: [FalconJX FlexJS] JIRA issues and helping with the compiler
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On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Michael Schmalle <
teotigraphixllc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Ok, I will have these screenshots then. Must I didn't know non logged in
> people couldn't view images on KVR.
>
> http://snag.gy/ajFEZ.jpg
>
> http://snag.gy/vCJen.jpg
>
> http://snag.gy/785HX.jpg
>
>
This helps, thanks!

>From these screenshots, FlexJS can handle most things - from a rendering
point of view.  It just looks like a combination of primitives (rect,
ellipse, line, linear gradients, etc.)  Which means that you just write
MXML/AS3 code and most of the Javascript (+SVG) code can be generated.

The things missing are RadialGradients and some filters like DropShadow and
Glow.  I don't think it would be too hard to add this.

There might be more issues, but I guess they will become more obvious as we
start building this out.  But, this looks like a very good usecase for
skinnable components.

Thanks,
Om


> Mike
>
> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 2:01 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <bigosmallm@gmail.co=
m
> >
> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Michael Schmalle <
> > teotigraphixllc@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > @Om
> > >
> > > Checkout page 1 and 2 of this thread. I am using OSC and AIR/Feathers
> to
> > > control Bitwig(Audio DAW).
> > >
> > > http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3D259&t=3D435857
> > >
> > > The above is the same type of stuff I am drawing in my Caustic apps.
> Let
> > me
> > > know if that makes sense to you.
> > >
> > >
> > I am unable to see any images displayed on that page.  It says:
> > "You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to
> > this post."
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> >
> > > Mike
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 1:52 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > bigosmallm@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Michael Schmalle <
> > > > teotigraphixllc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Alex,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thinking about this more.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have 1 or 2 apps that are more "administrative" such as a libra=
ry
> > > > > manager, MIDI importer, metadata manager for the Caustic files th=
at
> > are
> > > > on
> > > > > the device.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seeing that HTML is more text/editor centric, I could see myself
> > trying
> > > > to
> > > > > get the native extension working sooner than later and using the
> > > > > framework/components to build these simpler apps. This might
> actually
> > > be
> > > > a
> > > > > good thing since those apps are more secondary to the main ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > The other apps are quite graphic intensive and I don't know exact=
ly
> > how
> > > > > easy they will be to create in straight HTML. I am thinking more
> > > > > webgl/feathers like implementation will be needed for the graphic=
s.
> > > > Albeit,
> > > > > I am still ignorant to what kind of graphics I could do on Androi=
d
> > with
> > > > > either the embedded web view Cordova provides or some other optio=
n.
> > > > >
> > > > > As you can see I am REALLY trying to find a reason to set aside a
> > good
> > > > > amount of time to get this project moving on the low level.
> > > > >
> > > > > @Om this is why I was interested in what you were thinking about
> > > FXG/SVG
> > > > > and having components use them. It would be easier to use that th=
en
> > > > > Bitmaps, maybe, I guess I use straight Bitmaps with Feathers
> so.... I
> > > > don't
> > > > > know. :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Do you have an example of what kind of stuff you want to draw for
> your
> > > > apps?  If you can give me some direction, we could collaboratively
> > start
> > > > hacking on it.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Om
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Michael Schmalle <
> > > > > teotigraphixllc@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:37 PM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 5/27/15, 9:02 AM, "Michael Schmalle" <
> > teotigraphixllc@gmail.com>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >In the FlexJS and FalconJX categories there is not much and
> just
> > > > > assuming
> > > > > >> >since your are basically the main committer on the compiler
> right
> > > > now,
> > > > > >> >that
> > > > > >> >you just fix stuff and don't enter issues.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Yep.  Although if more folks are going to work on stuff I=E2=
=80=99ll be
> > more
> > > > > >> motivated to file tickets.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >That said, is there anything that you know about with the
> > compiler
> > > > > >> >FalconJX/FlexJS that I could work on to get my feet wet? Or a=
re
> > > your
> > > > > >> TODOs
> > > > > >> >more based on the fact you know exactly what is going on ther=
e
> > and
> > > I
> > > > > >> can't
> > > > > >> >do much until I fully understand the tool chain of FlexJS and
> > GCC?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I don=E2=80=99t think I have a list in my head that will help =
you learn
> > the
> > > > tool
> > > > > >> chain.  I want to suppress the GCC warnings, but I don=E2=80=
=99t think
> > that
> > > > will
> > > > > >> teach you much.  I want to explore Josh=E2=80=99s idea of Falc=
onJX with
> a
> > > > native
> > > > > >> HTML swc so we can write all of our JS code in AS.  If you wan=
t
> to
> > > > work
> > > > > on
> > > > > >> that, that would be awesome, but it may not teach you how the
> > FlexJS
> > > > > >> workflow is supposed to go.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ok, that answered my question.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, when I said "teach" I just meant getting into the code.
> > > Really, I
> > > > > > know the base part of the compiler and the walker/visitor
> framework
> > > > well
> > > > > > ;-), so getting FalconJX to use an HTML.swc would be exactly
> what I
> > > am
> > > > > > looking for to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is where you can keep doing what you are good at and I can
> > work
> > > on
> > > > > > what I am good at(code rendering).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Can I ask you to start another thread and outline what you see
> > needs
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > done to accomplish what is in your mind dealing with FalconJX a=
nd
> > the
> > > > > > HTML.swc? If you can just brainstorm, then I can ask you
> questions
> > to
> > > > > fill
> > > > > > in the gaps that I am not seeing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Peter and I are working on our own apps that use FlexJS.  It
> > rarely
> > > > > works
> > > > > >> like we=E2=80=99d like it to, then we fix the compiler or Flex=
JS code
> > until
> > > it
> > > > > >> does.  It might be best for you to simply start on a test app
> that
> > > > uses
> > > > > >> your NativeExtension and try to get it working in Cordova.  Or=
,
> if
> > > > that
> > > > > >> feels like too big a bite, I=E2=80=99ll push the app I=E2=80=
=99m working on and
> > you
> > > > can
> > > > > >> work on it as well if you find it interesting.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This would be beneficial for me as well and probably others. I
> > could
> > > > see
> > > > > > myself learning from something you are actively working on and
> > > looking
> > > > at
> > > > > > your commits.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Right now I have a September target for about 4-5 Feathers mobi=
le
> > > > Android
> > > > > > apps I am working on to release based on Caustic audio engine,
> that
> > > is
> > > > my
> > > > > > income. :) So the Crodova experiment I see coming in the
> > Fall/Winter
> > > > > when I
> > > > > > am more sound in what's going on and the component framework is=
 a
> > bit
> > > > > more
> > > > > > mature.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> As always, I=E2=80=99m glad you have your and Fred=E2=80=99s a=
nd everyone else=E2=80=99s
> > > help.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, well if my apps take off, which they should since I am
> > working
> > > > with
> > > > > > the dev of Caustic, I will have a 100% excuse to keep working o=
n
> > this
> > > > > > project for the foreseeable future. As you can see, with apps
> > selling
> > > > > using
> > > > > > native extensions and AIR, my motivation to get them to work in
> > > > > > HTML/Cordova increases 10 fold because they are already
> successful
> > on
> > > > one
> > > > > > platform. This is a good thing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Mike
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> -Alex
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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