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From Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>
Subject Re: TLF version control/license issues
Date Sun, 25 Jan 2015 08:24:18 GMT
I’m not really convinced we need attribution at all. The content is not being released as
a component of anything.

Why can’t we have a general mention in NOTICE?

If someone wants to put attribution in the source files, I have no problem with that. It does
seem like a waste of effort though.

On Jan 25, 2015, at 10:18 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> On 1/25/15, 12:12 AM, "Harbs" <harbs.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> According to the link that Justin provided, there’s no need to add
>> anything to the source file for public domain content.
>> 
>> The only thing that should probably be done, is add something to the
>> NOTICE that the tests contain public domain content. Nothing else needs
>> to/should be done.
> 
> I saw that, but would it be wrong to note it in the source?  If we ever
> release these files then yes, we need to mention it in NOTICE, but since
> NOTICE must be tailored to package contents, I was thinking we’d leave it
> out of NOTICE until we decide what goes in.  Having some attribution in
> the source might get it flagged by RAT so we catch it if we do include it
> in a package.
> 
> That said, I’m fine with just modifying NOTICE.
> 
> -Alex
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 25, 2015, at 10:10 AM, Alex Harui <aharui@adobe.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the list.  I haven’t looked to verify any of it.
>>> 
>>> Let’s discuss the alice.xml file header.  It still seems to me that
>>> having
>>> the Apache header is correct as the text was significantly modified to
>>> have TextFlow markup in it.  I think all that is missing is some comment
>>> or text in there providing attribution. FWIW, my training from the Adobe
>>> lawyers is that there may not be one correct answer when there is mixed
>>> content.  You just have to make sure everyone’s IP is correctly
>>> accounted
>>> for.
>>> 
>>> Can you post what you think the header should be?  And can you explain
>>> why
>>> it should be different than the way we handled the CC content in Tour De
>>> Flex?  Like this file:
>>> 
>>> flex-utilities/TourDeFlex/TourDeFlex3/src/apache/ApacheFlex4_10_0.mxml
>>> [1]
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1] 
>>> 
>>> https://fisheye6.atlassian.com/browse/flex-utilities/TourDeFlex/TourDeFle
>>> x3
>>> /src/apache/ApacheFlex4_10_0.mxml?hb=true
>>> [1] http://s.apache.org/48C (shortened)
>>> 
>>> I’m out of time for tonight so I won’t see your reply until sometime
>>> tomorrow for me.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Alex
>>> 
>>> On 1/24/15, 10:51 PM, "Justin Mclean" <justin@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> OK I looked though the TLF code in version control and here's the list
>>>> of
>>>> what I found.
>>>> 
>>>> I may of missed some things and this is not a complete list but I've
>>>> run
>>>> out of time.
>>>> 
>>>> Jar in version control:
>>>> ./ant/flexUnitTasks.jar
>>>> 
>>>> Swcs in version control:
>>>> ./libs/flexunit-cilistener.swc
>>>> ./libs/flexunit-uilistener.swc
>>>> ./libs/flexunit.swc
>>>> 
>>>> Missing Apache headers:
>>>> ./automation_core/src/UnitTest/ExtendedClasses/TestCaseBase.as
>>>> ./automation_core/src/UnitTest/Fixtures/MeasureConstants.as
>>>> ./automation_tests/src/UnitTest/Tests/SimpleTest.as
>>>> ./sdk/samples/actionscript/FTE/build-asFTE.xml
>>>> ./sdk/samples/actionscript/Pagination/build-Pagination.xml
>>>> ./sdk/samples/actionscript/TextLayout/build-asTLF.xml
>>>> ./sdk/samples/flex/build-flex.xml
>>>> ./sdk/samples/flex/TextLayoutEditor/build-editor.xml
>>>> ./sdk/samples/flex/textLayout_editBar/build-editBar.xml
>>>> ./test/testSuites.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/AllEventTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ContainerAttributeTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ContainerTypeTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/EventOverrideTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/FactoryImportTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/FontEmbedTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/HorizontalScrollingTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ImpliedParagraphTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ImportTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/KeyboardGestureTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/LocaleTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/MXMLCompilationTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/MeasurementTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/OperationTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ParagraphTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/SWFTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ScrollToRangeTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/ScrollingTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/SelectionTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/StyleTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/TCYTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/TabTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/TextContainerManagerTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/TextFlowTextlineFactoryTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/TextLineFilterTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/UndoRedoTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/VerticalScrollingTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/WritingModeTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testCases/sampleDataTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/plainText/asknot.txt
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/AliceID.xml
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/TextFrameTests.xml
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/adornmentTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/backgroundColorTest.xml
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/emptyElements.xml
>>>> 
>>>> licence issues:
>>>> ./sdk/samples/actionscript/Logo.jpg (Adobe registered logo)
>>>> ./sdk/samples/flex/Logo.jpg (Adobe registered logo)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/ARIAL_FONT.swf (Font we don't have permission
>>>> to use)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/FremontBridge.jpg (Photograph of unknown
>>>> provenance)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/FremontBridge.swf (as above)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/carrot.png (Image of unknown provenance)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/gandhi.jpg (likely public domain image no
>>>> attribution)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/gremlin.jpg (Photograph of unknown provenance)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/image1.jpg (as above)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/assets/leaves.jpg (as above)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/plainText/asknot.txt (public domain no
>>>> attribution)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/AliceID.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, missing license no attribution) [1]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/HORLTRAUTO.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/HORLTRHARD.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/HORRTLAUTO.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/HORRTLHARD.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/HtmlTest.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/JapaneseSampleMac.xml (copyright Adobe,
>>>> incorrectly apache licensed) [3]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/JapaneseSampleWin.xml l (copyright Adobe,
>>>> incorrectly apache licensed) [3]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/ParaAlignLTR.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/ParaAlignRTL.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/ParaAlignVertical.xml (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/RTLTabs.xml (copyright UN, incorrect apache
>>>> licensed) [4]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/VA-Justify.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/VORLTRAUTO.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/VORLTRHARD.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/VORRTLAUTO.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/VORRTLHARD.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/VSAUTO.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/alice.xml  (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [1]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/aliceExcerpt.xml  (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [1]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/alice_with_links.xml  (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [1]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/asknot-discretionaryhyphens.xml (public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [5]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/asknot.xml  /public domain, incorrectly
>>>> apache licensed and no attribution) [5]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/asknot_discretionaryhyphens.xml (public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [5]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/barnsley.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [6]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/barnsley_linkified.xml (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [6]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/ethanBrandHyphen.xml  (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/font-embedding.xml (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/font_embedding.xml (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/graphics_example.xml (text of unknown
>>>> provenance)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/sampleArabic.xml (copyright UN, incorrect
>>>> apache licensed) [4]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/severalPages.xml (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/simple.xml  (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/simpleStyle.xml  (copyright expired/public
>>>> domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution) [2]
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/simple_colored.xml   (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [2] 
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/simple_with_links.xml  (copyright
>>>> expired/public domain, incorrectly apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> [2] 
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/tableExample.xml (Text from article on
>>>> climate change in the New York Times?)
>>>> ./test/testFiles/markup/tlf/tanach.xml (Text from Bible in Hebrew, may
>>>> or may not be copyright or public domain. Given it's in electronic form
>>>> there's a chance it may be this [7] which is public domain. Incorrectly
>>>> apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> ./testApps/src/gandhi.mxml (content likely from wikipedia.  Incorrectly
>>>> apache licensed and no attribution)
>>>> ./testApps/src/school.mxml (copyright UN, incorrect apache licensed)
>>>> [4]
>>>> ./testApps/src/schoolV.mxml (copyright UN, incorrect apache licensed)
>>>> [4]
>>>> 
>>>> There are likely to be further issues in:
>>>> ./asTestApps/src (files names Alice)
>>>> ./automation_tests/src/UnitTest/PerformanceTests (file names contain
>>>> Alice)
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin
>>>> 
>>>> 1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice%27s_Adventures_in_Wonderland
>>>> 2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethan_Brand
>>>> 3. http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/pdfs/OTGuideJ.pdf
>>>> 4. http://www.un.org/ar/documents/udhr/
>>>> 5. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:JFK_inaugural_address.ogg
>>>> 6. 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.marxists.org/history/england/chartists/barnsley-manifesto.ht
>>>> m
>>>> 7 
>>>> 
>>>> https://www.biblegateway.com/versions/The-Westminster-Leningrad-Codex-WL
>>>> C/
>>>> 8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahatma_Gandhi
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 


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